Quick SNITCH

A quantitative guide to the degree of difficulty of the Times Quick Cryptic Crossword

Times Quick Cryptic Crossword 2505

Date 16 October 2023
Number 2505
Setter Trelawney
Day of week Monday
NITCH 77
Count of ref solvers 64
Ref solvers excluded with errors 3
Link to crossword View Crossword*
Times for the Times Link 2505

* Requires access to the Times Crossword Club

Detailed solving results

Reference, Tracked and Blog solvers with error-free solutions to this puzzle are shown below.

We also show the solver's Personal NITCH, which is their result on this puzzle compared to their average time, and the Wavelength Index of Times Cryptic Hardness, the WITCH, which is the Personal NITCH compared to the SNITCH.

Name TfTT Name Average time This time Personal NITCH WITCH
mohn 02:09 01:59 92 119
Jason 02:28 02:07 85 110
Paul Gilbert 02:28 01:48 72 93
verlaine 02:35 02:16 87 112
mistigris 02:38 01:47 67 87
hilarym 02:41 02:39 98 127
aphis99 aphis99 02:48 02:19 82 106
Flimmy flammy 03:05 02:43 88 114
Topical Tim Topical Tim 03:38 02:46 76 98
markdobell 03:46 03:13 85 110
Heyesey 03:48 03:23 89 115
Kinghedger 03:51 02:45 71 92
glheard 03:57 04:23 110 142
chriss 03:59 03:32 88 114
joelhames 04:03 04:55 121 157
PaulCooke 04:14 05:12 122 158
philjordan1147 BUSMAN 04:14 04:01 94 122
chindit 04:15 02:50 66 85
AlanS 04:20 04:13 97 125
tilbee 04:21 04:29 103 133
MikeOsborne 04:22 02:38 60 77
nina s 04:26 04:47 107 138
patrickcates 04:26 02:39 59 76
Roscoe 04:26 03:53 87 112
lucyg43484 04:27 04:13 94 122
Tom Stubbs Tom Stubbs 04:30 03:56 87 112
John Walsh 04:34 04:31 98 127
canismiser 04:40 05:26 116 150
Jim Willis 04:42 02:49 59 76
d.middleton 04:42 04:00 85 110
Umpire 04:43 02:23 50 64
andrewlake 04:47 03:05 64 83
LouWeed LouWeed 04:48 03:23 70 90
March 04:48 04:17 89 115
Ease This Jam 04:49 03:30 72 93
andy 04:50 04:15 87 112
Honggui 04:50 03:44 77 100
Liari 04:54 03:07 63 81
MK76 04:57 02:13 44 57
Zander 05:01 03:45 74 96
7dPenguin 7dPenguin 05:04 04:14 83 107
Squallaby 05:08 05:24 105 136
neilr neilr 05:09 04:45 92 119
andy_knott 05:14 04:33 86 111
Tibthorpe 05:15 04:39 88 114
Paul Bacon 05:15 04:36 87 112
footballblue 05:17 04:28 84 109
Penfold_61 05:17 04:13 79 102
daulbs 05:19 03:27 64 83
ChuckB 05:21 04:34 85 110
Spanna 05:23 05:27 101 131
mw7000 05:25 04:50 89 115
fshephe 05:25 03:39 67 87
george.plumbly 05:29 03:57 72 93
Rabbitoh 05:31 03:39 66 85
Finzi 05:41 04:27 78 101
Looch 05:47 05:55 102 132
McBeak McBeak 05:51 04:15 72 93
Kevin Gregg Kevin Gregg 05:57 04:58 83 107
Rosron 06:00 05:45 95 123
Crossiant 06:01 04:06 68 88
hopkinb hopkinb 06:03 03:51 63 81
Tudds 06:05 05:03 83 107
DunPangolin 06:06 04:51 79 102
Dofray 06:07 06:51 111 144
ilan 06:11 05:40 91 118
Curarist 06:15 05:38 90 116
earlylight 06:17 04:31 71 92
jimwetzler 06:20 04:44 74 96
robinh 06:21 05:12 81 105
JMbrow29 06:23 03:25 53 68
paul.whitehouse69 06:25 04:47 74 96
Gussie 06:27 05:14 81 105
James P 06:27 03:41 57 74
uvofiz 06:32 05:27 83 107
Mike Harper Mike Harper 06:33 07:17 111 144
nigel 06:38 06:46 102 132
jon 06:42 04:45 70 90
1234 06:45 06:04 89 115
Puzzleplease 06:50 04:22 63 81
DianeRS 06:53 05:33 80 103
Dvynys Dvynys 06:56 04:31 65 84
endafk 06:57 08:04 116 150
Viscomte 06:59 07:41 110 142
Riche Riche 07:00 04:53 69 89
cheryllayne cheryllayne 07:03 04:36 65 84
ChrisBrea 07:04 04:34 64 83
Yatton50 07:08 05:09 72 93
benedick 07:11 06:05 84 109
plett11 Plett11 07:22 05:29 74 96
martinede 07:30 05:00 66 85
Sheen 07:39 06:40 87 112
Deezzaa Deezzaa 07:44 05:28 70 90
jaraab 07:50 06:12 79 102
luxtonj61 07:51 06:50 87 112
crosswordian 07:53 05:43 72 93
mattindoha 07:55 06:57 87 112
kath 07:56 06:43 84 109
Templar Redux Templar 07:58 11:15 141 183
TomHerbert 08:00 06:26 80 103
vefatica vefatica 08:26 06:41 79 102
goblin 08:29 07:32 88 114
vinyl12345 vinyl1 08:39 07:06 82 106
flashman flashman 11:48 07:24 62 80
Merlin_55 Merlin 14:45 11:05 75 97
Doofenschmirtz Doofenschmirtz 16:37 11:50 71 92

A guide to the solver status

Legend
 Reference solver used for SNITCH
 Other Reference solver
 Tracked solver
 Blog solver

Blog Solvers

Blog Solvers are those who have allowed their times to be taken from the Times for the Times blog.

Notes for Blog Solvers:

  • the most reliable format for reporting times is with format "mm:ss" or as "x minutes" in the title or at the start of the entry
  • only the first main comment for each blogger is used; responses to other comments or a second comment is ignored
  • to report errors, include "n errors" just after the time
  • If you just have a time it is assumed you have no errors unless you mention DNF or pink squares or giving up, etc, in the text
  • Examples of good time notifications are "38:30, 0 errors" and "39 minutes, 0 errors" in the comment title or as the first part of your comment

Notes

The definition of Reference and Tracked solvers is described on the Neutrinos page.

The results for Reference solvers are normally used to calcuate the SNITCH. When this happens they are shown in the list with a solid blue line to the left. In the previous SNITCH results listing for each crossword, these were the only entries shown.

The most common causes for Reference solver results not to be used are: (a) that they did not meet the criteria this month to be used as a reference (e.g. they may not have completed enough puzzles on each day of the week) or (b) they have been pushed out of the top 100 on the leader board. In these cases, the results are now shown, but their data is not used for the SNITCH calculation.

Where there is data for Tracked solvers, I show them also in this table. The solving data is not always available, as the Crossword Club site only shows the top 100 solvers to everyone. Logged-in users get their own leaderboard position and those around them, but this is not available to everyone. So the SNITCH site only gets data for those who have made the top 100 in the leaderboard at some point during the day.

As a result there are a few geographically advantaged solvers; those of us who solve early in the day (e.g. we in the Antipodes, those in Asia and those staying up late in North America) are more likely to hit the leaderboard even with slower times. Solvers who are just as capable but solve later in the UK day might not make the top 100 and I have no way to capture their results.

You may wonder why there are Tracked solvers (in red) with low average solving times, mixed in with the Reference solvers (in blue). These are usually those that, while they don't seem to be Neutrinos, are not well aligned to the SNITCH. So I don't use them as Reference solvers in the SNITCH calculation, but still show their overall results.

You might also notice that there's some inconsistency at the tail end of the Reference solver list. My cutoff point is an average solving time of 45 minutes. But if someone around this mark is chosen as a Reference solver, their next month's results might end up being over 45 minutes and they will still be used. Alternatively, a Tracked solver might creep in under 45 minutes on the next calculation, but didn't make the cut for the prior Reference list. It's on the to-do list to see if I can make this a bit more predictable.

Stored SNITCH Values

Here are the SNITCH values (stored on the day) from the crossword.

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