Quick SNITCH

A quantitative guide to the degree of difficulty of the Times Quick Cryptic Crossword

Times Quick Cryptic Crossword 2508

Date 19 October 2023
Number 2508
Setter Izetti
Day of week Thursday
NITCH 80
Count of ref solvers 66
Ref solvers excluded with errors 2
Link to crossword View Crossword*
Times for the Times Link 2508

* Requires access to the Times Crossword Club

Detailed solving results

Reference, Tracked and Blog solvers with error-free solutions to this puzzle are shown below.

We also show the solver's Personal NITCH, which is their result on this puzzle compared to their average time, and the Wavelength Index of Times Cryptic Hardness, the WITCH, which is the Personal NITCH compared to the SNITCH.

Name TfTT Name Average time This time Personal NITCH WITCH
Paul Gilbert 02:28 02:42 109 136
Jason 02:28 01:48 72 90
verlaine 02:35 02:16 87 108
mistigris 02:38 02:08 81 101
hilarym 02:41 02:13 82 102
aphis99 aphis99 02:48 02:44 97 121
Flimmy flammy 03:05 02:27 79 98
Topical Tim Topical Tim 03:38 02:37 72 90
markdobell 03:46 02:41 71 88
Heyesey 03:48 02:17 60 75
Kinghedger 03:51 02:50 73 91
chriss 03:59 03:39 91 113
Strober 04:10 05:34 133 166
lickert 04:11 02:50 67 83
philjordan1147 BUSMAN 04:14 03:26 81 101
chindit 04:15 03:30 82 102
tilbee 04:21 03:48 87 108
MikeOsborne 04:22 05:14 119 148
Roscoe 04:26 03:59 89 111
nina s 04:26 07:07 160 200
patrickcates 04:26 02:49 63 78
lucyg43484 04:27 04:05 91 113
Tom Stubbs Tom Stubbs 04:30 03:30 77 96
John Walsh 04:34 05:05 111 138
alexh 04:41 03:33 75 93
d.middleton 04:42 04:56 104 130
Umpire 04:43 04:24 93 116
andrewlake 04:47 03:32 73 91
March 04:48 03:45 78 97
LouWeed LouWeed 04:48 04:11 87 108
Ease This Jam 04:49 04:17 88 110
andy 04:50 03:34 73 91
Liari 04:54 04:59 101 126
Zander 05:01 03:44 74 92
7dPenguin 7dPenguin 05:04 03:24 67 83
Squallaby 05:08 05:06 99 123
neilr neilr 05:09 04:13 81 101
andy_knott 05:14 03:38 69 86
Tibthorpe 05:15 04:12 80 100
Aly Duncan 05:17 04:50 91 113
Penfold_61 05:17 04:33 86 107
daulbs 05:19 04:13 79 98
ChuckB 05:21 04:17 80 100
esmeralda 05:23 03:11 59 73
fshephe 05:25 04:54 90 112
george.plumbly 05:29 04:13 76 95
KET 05:31 05:15 95 118
Rabbitoh 05:31 04:30 81 101
Finzi 05:41 04:38 81 101
Looch 05:47 04:47 82 102
McBeak McBeak 05:51 05:47 98 122
Dzhigit 05:51 04:58 84 105
Kevin Gregg Kevin Gregg 05:57 04:21 73 91
GeorgeTz 05:59 06:15 104 130
Mark Three 06:00 02:33 42 52
MrChumley MrChumley 06:00 05:10 86 107
Crossiant 06:01 05:50 96 120
GMcD 06:02 04:49 79 98
SlumdogEngineer 06:02 05:30 91 113
Tudds 06:05 06:55 113 141
DunPangolin 06:06 06:02 98 122
Dofray 06:07 03:22 55 68
Jeremy Weissmann plusjeremy 06:08 07:30 122 152
ilan 06:11 05:16 85 106
Curarist 06:15 04:45 76 95
jimwetzler 06:20 06:38 104 130
robinh 06:21 04:33 71 88
paul.whitehouse69 06:25 04:48 74 92
James P 06:27 04:11 64 80
uvofiz 06:32 05:58 91 113
Aloysius 06:32 04:17 65 81
Mike Harper Mike Harper 06:33 06:10 94 117
Mike Mansbridge 06:33 06:01 91 113
Nangle 06:36 05:08 77 96
Michael Dove 06:38 05:02 75 93
jon 06:42 05:10 77 96
Puzzleplease 06:50 05:22 78 97
raincloud 06:53 06:32 94 117
DianeRS 06:53 05:41 82 102
Hodge21 06:55 06:32 94 117
Dvynys Dvynys 06:56 05:57 85 106
maisiemae 06:57 04:42 67 83
endafk 06:57 05:47 83 103
John Arnold 06:59 04:49 68 85
Viscomte 06:59 05:19 76 95
Riche Riche 07:00 04:44 67 83
Corymbia Corymbia 07:03 05:57 84 105
cheryllayne cheryllayne 07:03 08:07 115 143
ChrisBrea 07:04 05:06 72 90
benedick 07:11 05:22 74 92
m5harp 07:15 05:44 79 98
johndun John Dunleavy 07:18 06:44 92 115
ulaca ulaca 07:18 09:14 126 157
barracuda barracuda 07:21 07:44 105 131
plett11 Plett11 07:22 05:43 77 96
gsriordan52 07:38 07:10 93 116
luxtonj61 07:51 06:00 76 95
crosswordian 07:53 06:06 77 96
mattindoha 07:55 05:57 75 93
kath 07:56 06:49 85 106
Templar Redux Templar 07:58 07:01 88 110
john.brassey 08:23 04:52 58 72
vefatica vefatica 08:26 08:15 97 121
BletchleyReject 08:27 09:00 106 132
goblin 08:29 07:03 83 103
vinyl12345 vinyl1 08:39 07:00 80 100
Mkgnao Mkgnao 08:53 07:11 80 100
nigelmzzz 09:12 08:36 93 116
Merlin_55 Merlin 14:45 06:42 45 56

A guide to the solver status

Legend
 Reference solver used for SNITCH
 Other Reference solver
 Tracked solver
 Blog solver

Blog Solvers

Blog Solvers are those who have allowed their times to be taken from the Times for the Times blog.

Notes for Blog Solvers:

  • the most reliable format for reporting times is with format "mm:ss" or as "x minutes" in the title or at the start of the entry
  • only the first main comment for each blogger is used; responses to other comments or a second comment is ignored
  • to report errors, include "n errors" just after the time
  • If you just have a time it is assumed you have no errors unless you mention DNF or pink squares or giving up, etc, in the text
  • Examples of good time notifications are "38:30, 0 errors" and "39 minutes, 0 errors" in the comment title or as the first part of your comment

Notes

The definition of Reference and Tracked solvers is described on the Neutrinos page.

The results for Reference solvers are normally used to calcuate the SNITCH. When this happens they are shown in the list with a solid blue line to the left. In the previous SNITCH results listing for each crossword, these were the only entries shown.

The most common causes for Reference solver results not to be used are: (a) that they did not meet the criteria this month to be used as a reference (e.g. they may not have completed enough puzzles on each day of the week) or (b) they have been pushed out of the top 100 on the leader board. In these cases, the results are now shown, but their data is not used for the SNITCH calculation.

Where there is data for Tracked solvers, I show them also in this table. The solving data is not always available, as the Crossword Club site only shows the top 100 solvers to everyone. Logged-in users get their own leaderboard position and those around them, but this is not available to everyone. So the SNITCH site only gets data for those who have made the top 100 in the leaderboard at some point during the day.

As a result there are a few geographically advantaged solvers; those of us who solve early in the day (e.g. we in the Antipodes, those in Asia and those staying up late in North America) are more likely to hit the leaderboard even with slower times. Solvers who are just as capable but solve later in the UK day might not make the top 100 and I have no way to capture their results.

You may wonder why there are Tracked solvers (in red) with low average solving times, mixed in with the Reference solvers (in blue). These are usually those that, while they don't seem to be Neutrinos, are not well aligned to the SNITCH. So I don't use them as Reference solvers in the SNITCH calculation, but still show their overall results.

You might also notice that there's some inconsistency at the tail end of the Reference solver list. My cutoff point is an average solving time of 45 minutes. But if someone around this mark is chosen as a Reference solver, their next month's results might end up being over 45 minutes and they will still be used. Alternatively, a Tracked solver might creep in under 45 minutes on the next calculation, but didn't make the cut for the prior Reference list. It's on the to-do list to see if I can make this a bit more predictable.

Stored SNITCH Values

Here are the SNITCH values (stored on the day) from the crossword.

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