Quick SNITCH

A quantitative guide to the degree of difficulty of the Times Quick Cryptic Crossword

Times Quick Cryptic Crossword 2485

Date 18 September 2023
Number 2485
Setter Trelawney
Day of week Monday
NITCH 84
Count of ref solvers 62
Ref solvers excluded with errors 2
Link to crossword View Crossword*
Times for the Times Link 2485

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Detailed solving results

Reference, Tracked and Blog solvers with error-free solutions to this puzzle are shown below.

We also show the solver's Personal NITCH, which is their result on this puzzle compared to their average time, and the Wavelength Index of Times Cryptic Hardness, the WITCH, which is the Personal NITCH compared to the SNITCH.

Name TfTT Name Average time This time Personal NITCH WITCH
mohn 02:09 01:37 75 89
Paul Gilbert 02:25 02:18 95 113
Jason 02:27 01:51 75 89
hilarym 02:41 02:16 84 100
cmjhutton 02:42 02:40 98 116
aphis99 aphis99 02:47 02:37 94 111
Flimmy flammy 03:02 02:30 82 97
Topical Tim Topical Tim 03:37 03:33 98 116
richard 03:37 03:06 85 101
markdobell 03:50 03:48 99 117
Heyesey 03:52 02:48 72 85
glheard 04:00 02:49 70 83
lickert 04:10 03:39 87 103
chindit 04:11 04:17 102 121
philjordan1147 BUSMAN 04:13 03:37 85 101
MikeOsborne 04:18 02:57 68 80
tilbee 04:19 03:51 89 105
Roscoe 04:26 04:35 103 122
lucyg43484 04:27 03:52 86 102
tiggis 04:27 04:18 96 114
jfisher60 04:33 05:32 121 144
Tom Stubbs Tom Stubbs 04:35 05:28 119 141
patrickcates 04:36 03:12 69 82
andrewlake 04:38 04:40 100 119
d.middleton 04:39 04:55 105 125
andy 04:42 03:56 83 98
canismiser 04:42 03:56 83 98
March 04:44 04:31 95 113
alexh 04:46 03:14 67 79
pitcaithlie Pitcaithlie 04:47 04:14 88 104
Ed freshpot 04:49 04:20 89 105
Honggui 04:51 03:44 76 90
Umpire 04:52 03:34 73 86
MK76 04:52 04:04 83 98
Johninterred 04:54 05:28 111 132
7dPenguin 7dPenguin 04:59 05:34 111 132
Zander 05:01 05:13 103 122
Squallaby 05:06 04:09 81 96
Tibthorpe 05:08 04:48 93 110
Liari 05:09 03:46 73 86
Penfold_61 05:17 04:15 80 95
esmeralda 05:18 02:32 47 55
daulbs 05:20 04:52 91 108
fshephe 05:20 04:17 80 95
Aly Duncan 05:20 04:29 84 100
mw7000 05:22 03:25 63 75
ChuckB 05:22 04:55 91 108
Rabbitoh 05:25 04:29 82 97
george.plumbly 05:26 06:16 115 136
Spanna 05:27 05:12 95 113
KET 05:29 04:54 89 105
Dekkers 05:31 05:13 94 111
Finzi 05:38 05:35 99 117
Shabbo 05:40 05:18 93 110
Paul Hammond Paul Hammond 05:41 04:29 78 92
Looch 05:42 04:20 76 90
Kevin Gregg Kevin Gregg 05:45 07:23 128 152
cheryllayne cheryllayne 05:50 08:48 150 178
MrChumley MrChumley 05:52 06:12 105 125
PGooden 05:54 07:15 122 145
Dzhigit 05:55 05:13 88 104
Jeremy Weissmann plusjeremy 05:58 06:50 114 135
Mark Three 05:58 04:53 81 96
nigel 06:00 03:59 66 78
McBeak McBeak 06:02 04:22 72 85
DunPangolin 06:03 06:41 110 130
Tudds 06:05 05:02 82 97
Rosron 06:05 05:03 83 98
GMcD 06:05 04:56 81 96
hopkinb hopkinb 06:08 04:36 75 89
martinphillips 06:09 04:45 77 91
ilan 06:10 04:44 76 90
Curarist 06:12 05:27 87 103
James P 06:15 04:16 68 80
robinh 06:16 05:25 86 102
Michael Dove 06:23 05:52 91 108
Mike Harper Mike Harper 06:23 05:06 79 94
uvofiz 06:26 04:55 76 90
alastair52 06:30 04:47 73 86
Dvynys Dvynys 06:37 07:10 108 128
Puzzleplease 06:38 05:43 86 102
John Arnold 06:39 06:17 94 111
Nangle 06:41 04:55 73 86
maisiemae 06:41 07:35 113 134
Riche Riche 06:43 05:38 83 98
endafk 06:43 06:32 97 115
Corymbia Corymbia 06:46 08:25 124 147
1234 06:48 05:52 86 102
plett11 Plett11 06:48 07:40 112 133
raincloud 06:49 06:19 92 109
Deezzaa Deezzaa 06:56 09:19 134 159
barracuda barracuda 06:59 06:41 95 113
gsriordan52 07:20 07:53 107 127
luxtonj61 07:21 07:32 102 121
Sheen 07:21 06:09 83 98
TomHerbert 07:37 05:41 74 88
Templar Redux Templar 07:37 08:00 105 125
crosswordian 07:46 06:25 82 97
mattindoha 07:57 04:48 60 71
goblin 08:21 08:13 98 116
Merlin_55 Merlin 14:45 10:31 71 84
Doofenschmirtz Doofenschmirtz 16:37 13:52 83 98

A guide to the solver status

Legend
 Reference solver used for SNITCH
 Other Reference solver
 Tracked solver
 Blog solver

Blog Solvers

Blog Solvers are those who have allowed their times to be taken from the Times for the Times blog.

Notes for Blog Solvers:

  • the most reliable format for reporting times is with format "mm:ss" or as "x minutes" in the title or at the start of the entry
  • only the first main comment for each blogger is used; responses to other comments or a second comment is ignored
  • to report errors, include "n errors" just after the time
  • If you just have a time it is assumed you have no errors unless you mention DNF or pink squares or giving up, etc, in the text
  • Examples of good time notifications are "38:30, 0 errors" and "39 minutes, 0 errors" in the comment title or as the first part of your comment

Notes

The definition of Reference and Tracked solvers is described on the Neutrinos page.

The results for Reference solvers are normally used to calcuate the SNITCH. When this happens they are shown in the list with a solid blue line to the left. In the previous SNITCH results listing for each crossword, these were the only entries shown.

The most common causes for Reference solver results not to be used are: (a) that they did not meet the criteria this month to be used as a reference (e.g. they may not have completed enough puzzles on each day of the week) or (b) they have been pushed out of the top 100 on the leader board. In these cases, the results are now shown, but their data is not used for the SNITCH calculation.

Where there is data for Tracked solvers, I show them also in this table. The solving data is not always available, as the Crossword Club site only shows the top 100 solvers to everyone. Logged-in users get their own leaderboard position and those around them, but this is not available to everyone. So the SNITCH site only gets data for those who have made the top 100 in the leaderboard at some point during the day.

As a result there are a few geographically advantaged solvers; those of us who solve early in the day (e.g. we in the Antipodes, those in Asia and those staying up late in North America) are more likely to hit the leaderboard even with slower times. Solvers who are just as capable but solve later in the UK day might not make the top 100 and I have no way to capture their results.

You may wonder why there are Tracked solvers (in red) with low average solving times, mixed in with the Reference solvers (in blue). These are usually those that, while they don't seem to be Neutrinos, are not well aligned to the SNITCH. So I don't use them as Reference solvers in the SNITCH calculation, but still show their overall results.

You might also notice that there's some inconsistency at the tail end of the Reference solver list. My cutoff point is an average solving time of 45 minutes. But if someone around this mark is chosen as a Reference solver, their next month's results might end up being over 45 minutes and they will still be used. Alternatively, a Tracked solver might creep in under 45 minutes on the next calculation, but didn't make the cut for the prior Reference list. It's on the to-do list to see if I can make this a bit more predictable.

Stored SNITCH Values

Here are the SNITCH values (stored on the day) from the crossword.

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