Quick SNITCH

A quantitative guide to the degree of difficulty of the Times Quick Cryptic Crossword

Times Quick Cryptic Crossword 2839

Date 21 November 2024
Number 2839
Setter Orpheus
Day of week Thursday
NITCH 81
Count of ref solvers 73
Ref solvers excluded with errors 21
Link to crossword View Crossword*
Times for the Times Link 2839

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Detailed solving results

Reference, Tracked and Blog solvers with error-free solutions to this puzzle are shown below.

We also show the solver's Personal NITCH, which is their result on this puzzle compared to their average time, and the Wavelength Index of Times Cryptic Hardness, the WITCH, which is the Personal NITCH compared to the SNITCH.

Name TfTT Name Average time This time Personal NITCH WITCH
Paul Gilbert 02:27 01:58 80 98
cmjhutton 02:28 02:38 106 130
Jason 02:33 02:27 96 118
verlaine 02:34 02:13 86 106
mistigris 02:40 01:54 71 87
hilarym 02:46 02:24 86 106
aphis99 aphis99 02:47 02:20 83 102
Flimmy flammy 03:21 03:25 101 124
Sheapey Sheapey 03:25 03:04 89 109
SGHanson 03:29 02:32 72 88
markdobell 03:39 02:41 73 90
Heyesey 03:43 05:34 149 183
michaelbell53 03:47 03:08 82 101
Topical Tim Topical Tim 03:54 02:51 73 90
Ciolf 03:55 02:32 64 79
Kinghedger 03:59 03:41 92 113
chindit 04:10 03:25 82 101
Roscoe 04:11 05:13 124 153
glheard 04:13 04:22 103 127
MikeOsborne 04:16 03:23 79 97
Glencairn 04:17 03:28 80 98
lickert 04:22 03:09 72 88
Tom Stubbs Tom Stubbs 04:25 04:15 96 118
tilbee 04:27 04:19 97 119
Morphosis 04:28 04:19 96 118
philjordan1147 BUSMAN 04:30 04:12 93 114
AlanS 04:31 04:35 101 124
canismiser 04:31 03:27 76 93
MK76 04:38 04:58 107 132
andrewlake 04:42 03:16 69 85
alexh 04:45 04:10 87 107
LouWeed LouWeed 04:49 03:00 62 76
March 04:49 05:15 108 133
andy 04:53 04:24 90 111
Bluejacket 05:01 03:01 60 74
Paul Bacon 05:02 05:02 100 123
LuckOfLucien 05:04 03:32 69 85
scrabbler 05:05 03:29 68 83
pitcaithlie Pitcaithlie 05:05 03:36 70 86
Johninterred 05:06 03:15 63 77
Liari 05:07 03:54 76 93
Tibthorpe 05:08 04:35 89 109
Ed freshpot 05:10 04:05 79 97
McBeakLives 05:14 03:13 61 75
Zander 05:14 03:22 64 79
Squallaby 05:15 03:53 73 90
ChuckB 05:16 04:21 82 101
fshephe 05:17 05:30 104 128
cdb_100 05:19 03:24 63 77
Aly Duncan 05:20 04:52 91 112
AndyKnott321 05:21 04:19 80 98
nina s 05:22 05:35 104 128
esmeralda 05:25 04:24 81 100
rrricharrrd 05:35 04:18 77 95
MrChumley MrChumley 05:35 05:38 100 123
Looch 05:41 04:34 80 98
GeorgeTz 05:42 05:09 90 111
Encota 05:43 05:01 87 107
denislaw 05:43 03:31 61 75
Finzi 05:44 04:43 82 101
JayEm 05:45 05:44 99 122
Rosron 05:45 03:47 65 80
cmcnsmith 05:50 06:36 113 139
RobR RobR 05:51 05:47 98 120
Freemers 05:55 03:58 67 82
Shabbo 06:01 05:05 84 103
Adelaider 06:06 04:51 79 97
chriswestontour 06:14 03:47 60 74
Curarist 06:14 04:38 74 91
Adrian Cobb 06:17 05:47 92 113
Tudds 06:17 06:11 98 120
Mike C 06:20 04:05 64 79
Dzhigit 06:21 04:55 77 95
PGooden 06:25 04:28 69 85
jimwetzler 06:27 07:42 119 146
robinh 06:28 04:44 73 90
Kevin Gregg Kevin Gregg 06:31 05:18 81 100
ilan 06:39 04:59 74 91
GMcD 06:39 05:45 86 106
Vannyx 06:42 04:55 73 90
uvofiz 06:49 04:56 72 88
Puzzleplease 06:52 07:30 109 134
Nangle 06:55 05:30 79 97
DianeRS 06:56 06:35 94 116
FraserH 06:58 06:32 93 114
valerian1967 07:00 07:49 111 137
Dvynys Dvynys 07:03 04:13 59 72
banishspam 07:10 04:53 68 83
KenD51 07:10 07:56 110 135
Obrador 07:21 05:50 79 97
martinede 07:23 06:33 88 108
ChrisBrea 07:23 07:08 96 118
janesa 07:27 06:10 82 101
1234 07:28 06:07 81 100
Mike Harper Mike Harper 07:31 05:28 72 88
DamienKnapma 07:36 06:55 91 112
mjsaunders9 07:41 06:08 79 97
Mike Mansbridge 07:48 08:10 104 128
Desdeeloeste Desdeeloeste 07:48 06:55 88 108
wwicksteed 08:01 04:47 59 72
docg 08:02 06:58 86 106
plett11 Plett11 08:06 04:18 53 65
timbo 08:08 08:03 98 120
johndun John Dunleavy 08:10 09:43 118 145
Aldus 08:12 05:23 65 80
crosswordian 08:17 06:59 84 103
mattindoha 08:23 06:55 82 101
Dr_Bob 08:23 06:01 71 87
john.brassey 08:26 07:41 91 112
Edprof 08:40 07:00 80 98
vefatica vefatica 08:40 07:43 89 109
kath 08:40 14:50 171 211
goblin 08:40 08:13 94 116
raincloud 08:42 06:39 76 93
vinyl12345 vinyl1 08:45 09:33 109 134
Rowleyrag 08:46 08:11 93 114
dr.shred 08:51 06:50 77 95
Deezzaa Deezzaa 08:53 06:38 74 91
Mkgnao Mkgnao 09:03 06:25 70 86
smalley552 09:04 07:25 81 100
GMB 09:05 04:51 53 65
Poff 09:20 08:43 93 114
piltdown man 09:26 07:02 74 91
ezoredfox 09:29 09:44 102 125
Cryptique 09:39 04:42 48 59
maisiemae 09:55 06:04 61 75
Pendrov 09:58 07:11 72 88
Pauline Minter 10:01 07:52 78 96
RPY 10:09 06:28 63 77
iholloway 10:12 11:40 114 140
Birdingbob 10:13 10:25 101 124
TonyN6 10:17 23:47 231 285
Chimblet Lyle 10:47 07:26 68 83
MichaelE 11:13 07:36 67 82
BertieVII 11:22 10:22 91 112
Dr. Memory 11:37 10:51 93 114
paul.verney 11:57 09:54 82 101
intentional rounding 12:28 06:48 54 66
tyrotim tyrotim 12:30 08:18 66 81
mpbthorpe 12:31 10:16 82 101
WordPlodder BletchleyReject 12:33 07:48 62 76
chabuduo chabuduo 12:42 14:01 110 135
ifincham2 12:49 14:49 115 141
flashman flashman 12:59 08:25 64 79
mich_punk 13:01 08:08 62 76
Sonofjim 13:06 06:34 50 61
kapietro kapietro 13:32 11:03 81 100
kfb20 15:50 08:41 54 66
Xebeq 16:18 11:03 67 82
tomtom2 17:35 10:08 57 70
david.14587 18:26 08:56 48 59
TonyK 18:49 13:12 70 86
New Driver 18:58 08:13 43 53
Jean in Oxford 20:14 16:01 79 97
paulmcl 20:20 07:59 39 48
Mark from Ipswich 21:12 11:42 55 67
ian.shepherd 21:37 16:01 74 91
mozbadel mozbadel 23:32 12:31 53 65
dominic.c-b 23:33 36:48 156 192
deebeeem 42:16 07:43 18 22
mcfarl 44:51 28:51 64 79

A guide to the solver status

Legend
 Reference solver used for SNITCH
 Other Reference solver
 Tracked solver
 Blog solver

Blog Solvers

Blog Solvers are those who have allowed their times to be taken from the Times for the Times blog.

Notes for Blog Solvers:

  • the most reliable format for reporting times is with format "mm:ss" or as "x minutes" in the title or at the start of the entry
  • only the first main comment for each blogger is used; responses to other comments or a second comment is ignored
  • to report errors, include "n errors" just after the time
  • If you just have a time it is assumed you have no errors unless you mention DNF or pink squares or giving up, etc, in the text
  • Examples of good time notifications are "38:30, 0 errors" and "39 minutes, 0 errors" in the comment title or as the first part of your comment

Notes

The definition of Reference and Tracked solvers is described on the Neutrinos page.

The results for Reference solvers are normally used to calcuate the SNITCH. When this happens they are shown in the list with a solid blue line to the left. In the previous SNITCH results listing for each crossword, these were the only entries shown.

The most common causes for Reference solver results not to be used are: (a) that they did not meet the criteria this month to be used as a reference (e.g. they may not have completed enough puzzles on each day of the week) or (b) they have been pushed out of the top 100 on the leader board. In these cases, the results are now shown, but their data is not used for the SNITCH calculation.

Where there is data for Tracked solvers, I show them also in this table. The solving data is not always available, as the Crossword Club site only shows the top 100 solvers to everyone. Logged-in users get their own leaderboard position and those around them, but this is not available to everyone. So the SNITCH site only gets data for those who have made the top 100 in the leaderboard at some point during the day.

As a result there are a few geographically advantaged solvers; those of us who solve early in the day (e.g. we in the Antipodes, those in Asia and those staying up late in North America) are more likely to hit the leaderboard even with slower times. Solvers who are just as capable but solve later in the UK day might not make the top 100 and I have no way to capture their results.

You may wonder why there are Tracked solvers (in red) with low average solving times, mixed in with the Reference solvers (in blue). These are usually those that, while they don't seem to be Neutrinos, are not well aligned to the SNITCH. So I don't use them as Reference solvers in the SNITCH calculation, but still show their overall results.

You might also notice that there's some inconsistency at the tail end of the Reference solver list. My cutoff point is an average solving time of 45 minutes. But if someone around this mark is chosen as a Reference solver, their next month's results might end up being over 45 minutes and they will still be used. Alternatively, a Tracked solver might creep in under 45 minutes on the next calculation, but didn't make the cut for the prior Reference list. It's on the to-do list to see if I can make this a bit more predictable.

Stored SNITCH Values

Here are the SNITCH values (stored on the day) from the crossword.

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