Quick SNITCH

A quantitative guide to the degree of difficulty of the Times Quick Cryptic Crossword

Times Quick Cryptic Crossword 2797

Date 03 October 2024
Number 2797
Setter Cheeko
Day of week Thursday
NITCH 123
Count of ref solvers 75
Ref solvers excluded with errors 11
Link to crossword View Crossword*
Times for the Times Link 2797

* Requires access to the Times Crossword Club

Detailed solving results

Reference, Tracked and Blog solvers with error-free solutions to this puzzle are shown below.

We also show the solver's Personal NITCH, which is their result on this puzzle compared to their average time, and the Wavelength Index of Times Cryptic Hardness, the WITCH, which is the Personal NITCH compared to the SNITCH.

Name TfTT Name Average time This time Personal NITCH WITCH
Paul Gilbert 02:28 02:35 104 84
cmjhutton 02:29 02:47 112 91
verlaine 02:36 03:29 133 108
aphis99 aphis99 02:44 03:01 110 89
hilarym 02:45 04:25 160 130
Flimmy flammy 03:19 03:10 95 77
Sheapey Sheapey 03:19 06:16 188 152
richard 03:28 04:34 131 106
markdobell 03:38 04:00 110 89
Heyesey 03:44 05:25 145 117
Topical Tim Topical Tim 03:54 05:46 147 119
Umpire 03:59 04:49 120 97
SimonAnthony 04:04 05:37 138 112
chindit 04:07 07:24 179 145
Jim Willis 04:09 05:38 135 109
glheard 04:11 03:43 88 71
Golvellius 04:11 04:34 109 88
MikeOsborne 04:12 04:42 111 90
Roscoe 04:14 04:26 104 84
lickert 04:18 06:43 156 126
Tom Stubbs Tom Stubbs 04:23 05:53 134 108
tilbee 04:25 06:24 144 117
canismiser 04:26 05:45 129 104
Honggui 04:32 06:12 136 110
lucyg43484 04:33 07:11 157 127
Morphosis 04:34 05:19 116 94
tiggis 04:38 06:14 134 108
toots 04:41 04:50 103 83
andrewlake 04:43 06:53 145 117
LouWeed LouWeed 04:45 08:25 177 143
March 04:46 05:36 117 95
alexh 04:48 05:40 118 95
neilr neilr 04:54 05:13 106 86
andy 04:56 05:55 119 96
pitcaithlie Pitcaithlie 05:01 06:09 122 99
scrabbler 05:03 06:22 126 102
Johninterred 05:05 06:49 134 108
Ed freshpot 05:07 07:35 148 120
Zander 05:09 06:23 123 100
fshephe 05:15 07:52 149 121
Rabbitoh 05:15 09:07 173 140
7dPenguin 7dPenguin 05:16 05:13 99 80
cdb_100 05:16 05:49 110 89
Bluejacket 05:24 05:13 96 78
KarenR 05:27 07:35 139 113
esmeralda 05:31 09:16 167 135
nina s 05:31 06:42 121 98
Encota 05:41 06:51 120 97
JayEm 05:42 07:12 126 102
denislaw 05:42 09:18 163 132
Looch 05:43 08:34 149 121
Finzi 05:44 06:01 104 84
mw7000 05:59 12:07 202 164
Carol 05:59 08:01 133 108
DunPangolin 06:05 09:20 153 124
RobR RobR 06:07 06:25 104 84
Paul Hammond Paul Hammond 06:14 09:08 146 118
Jeremy Weissmann plusjeremy 06:14 06:17 100 81
Adrian Cobb 06:16 11:08 177 143
julian_w 06:16 06:24 102 82
Tudds 06:17 09:34 152 123
Mike C 06:20 07:40 121 98
hopkinb hopkinb 06:22 13:04 205 166
PGooden 06:26 07:21 114 92
ilan 06:35 09:36 145 117
paul.whitehouse69 06:45 07:58 118 95
Vannyx 06:45 06:29 96 78
James P 06:45 09:45 144 117
uvofiz 06:46 09:05 134 108
FraserH 06:54 06:58 100 81
Nangle 06:57 07:48 112 91
valerian1967 07:01 12:48 182 147
tds 07:10 11:14 156 126
Obrador 07:11 08:47 122 99
nigel 07:13 10:35 146 118
ChrisBrea 07:19 09:43 132 107
Corymbia Corymbia 07:21 08:29 115 93
hazyfantazee 07:27 08:22 112 91
DamienKnapma 07:36 08:22 110 89
CrystalPip 07:37 11:01 144 117
Mike Harper Mike Harper 07:45 08:15 106 86
earlylight 07:50 10:04 128 104
ombek 07:51 08:27 107 86
plett11 Plett11 08:00 16:37 207 168
Dr_Bob 08:04 12:00 148 120
johndun John Dunleavy 08:07 12:04 148 120
nigelmzzz 08:08 07:49 96 78
ulaca ulaca 08:09 11:56 146 118
Templar Redux Templar 08:10 09:44 119 96
TomHerbert 08:11 08:40 105 85
Sheen 08:12 09:26 115 93
Zabadak3 Zabadak 08:13 07:49 95 77
m5harp 08:16 09:30 114 92
dec 08:18 10:50 130 105
richardCV22 08:20 14:35 175 142
jaraab 08:21 10:05 120 97
gsriordan52 08:25 18:48 223 181
Deezzaa Deezzaa 08:30 13:52 163 132
kath 08:36 14:21 166 134
raincloud 08:36 09:33 111 90
Doyler 08:42 09:33 109 88
CWM65 08:42 11:31 132 107
luxtonj61 08:43 10:51 124 100
goblin 08:43 11:34 132 107
hipponym 08:44 11:05 126 102
vinyl12345 vinyl1 08:46 08:01 91 73
GMB 08:46 11:03 126 102
Jeeves 08:46 10:14 116 94
jemcd33 08:49 09:29 107 86
OldSolver 08:53 08:20 93 75
Mkgnao Mkgnao 08:57 11:35 129 104
uffindellbirtjn 09:01 10:06 112 91
barracuda barracuda 09:18 11:50 127 103
maisiemae 09:28 20:59 221 179
hemantyd 09:31 08:30 89 72
Cryptique 09:36 12:48 133 108
TonyN6 10:10 14:00 137 111
Pauline Minter 10:16 10:18 100 81
FelicityTT 10:17 14:33 141 114
Troothful 10:46 12:33 116 94
Arachnidus 10:48 19:17 178 144
Rhys 10:51 13:50 127 103
horners1974 10:53 12:20 113 91
hookyt 10:53 11:25 104 84
symbenall2 10:54 29:44 272 221
BertieVII 11:00 12:57 117 95
simjt simjt 11:29 11:06 96 78
WordPlodder BletchleyReject 11:59 17:50 148 120
tyrotim tyrotim 12:29 15:32 124 100
alistair.boere 12:31 09:11 73 59
Oldandweary 12:33 15:04 120 97
ifincham2 12:42 17:12 135 109
phatman 12:44 10:42 84 68
SMSEsq 12:50 13:48 107 86
martinr486 13:01 15:05 115 93
chabuduo chabuduo 13:01 15:44 120 97
Sonofjim 13:10 19:10 145 117
rlowin2 13:12 21:17 161 130
flashman flashman 13:18 16:00 120 97
kapietro kapietro 13:34 12:09 89 72
Merlin_55 Merlin 14:03 14:31 103 83
mich_punk 14:26 13:39 94 76
Dofray 14:35 27:11 186 151
Mendes 15:14 19:05 125 101
The Real Steve Snackman 16:10 14:19 88 71
Charpentier 16:13 23:19 143 116
140 Mandak 262 Jamuna 16:48 18:01 107 86
tomtom2 17:47 30:10 169 137
RichardKn 18:41 23:09 123 100
TonyK 18:55 29:38 156 126
Cathyhuns 18:59 13:17 69 56
david.14587 19:11 16:47 87 70
pfalloon 19:22 21:05 108 87
Jean in Oxford 19:34 28:05 143 116
New Driver 20:19 24:33 120 97
moirconsult 21:10 21:12 100 81
Geldart 21:30 21:36 100 81
david 21:53 20:54 95 77
winelover 21:54 28:14 128 104
mozbadel mozbadel 22:21 28:41 128 104
ian.shepherd 22:24 27:08 121 98
maryht 22:29 24:11 107 86
danielbluebisson 22:42 14:53 65 52
paulmcl 23:17 30:58 132 107
prognosticat 26:58 36:24 134 108
youngbaz 35:49 15:15 42 34
mcfarl 42:48 57:16 133 108

A guide to the solver status

Legend
 Reference solver used for SNITCH
 Other Reference solver
 Tracked solver
 Blog solver

Blog Solvers

Blog Solvers are those who have allowed their times to be taken from the Times for the Times blog.

Notes for Blog Solvers:

  • the most reliable format for reporting times is with format "mm:ss" or as "x minutes" in the title or at the start of the entry
  • only the first main comment for each blogger is used; responses to other comments or a second comment is ignored
  • to report errors, include "n errors" just after the time
  • If you just have a time it is assumed you have no errors unless you mention DNF or pink squares or giving up, etc, in the text
  • Examples of good time notifications are "38:30, 0 errors" and "39 minutes, 0 errors" in the comment title or as the first part of your comment

Notes

The definition of Reference and Tracked solvers is described on the Neutrinos page.

The results for Reference solvers are normally used to calcuate the SNITCH. When this happens they are shown in the list with a solid blue line to the left. In the previous SNITCH results listing for each crossword, these were the only entries shown.

The most common causes for Reference solver results not to be used are: (a) that they did not meet the criteria this month to be used as a reference (e.g. they may not have completed enough puzzles on each day of the week) or (b) they have been pushed out of the top 100 on the leader board. In these cases, the results are now shown, but their data is not used for the SNITCH calculation.

Where there is data for Tracked solvers, I show them also in this table. The solving data is not always available, as the Crossword Club site only shows the top 100 solvers to everyone. Logged-in users get their own leaderboard position and those around them, but this is not available to everyone. So the SNITCH site only gets data for those who have made the top 100 in the leaderboard at some point during the day.

As a result there are a few geographically advantaged solvers; those of us who solve early in the day (e.g. we in the Antipodes, those in Asia and those staying up late in North America) are more likely to hit the leaderboard even with slower times. Solvers who are just as capable but solve later in the UK day might not make the top 100 and I have no way to capture their results.

You may wonder why there are Tracked solvers (in red) with low average solving times, mixed in with the Reference solvers (in blue). These are usually those that, while they don't seem to be Neutrinos, are not well aligned to the SNITCH. So I don't use them as Reference solvers in the SNITCH calculation, but still show their overall results.

You might also notice that there's some inconsistency at the tail end of the Reference solver list. My cutoff point is an average solving time of 45 minutes. But if someone around this mark is chosen as a Reference solver, their next month's results might end up being over 45 minutes and they will still be used. Alternatively, a Tracked solver might creep in under 45 minutes on the next calculation, but didn't make the cut for the prior Reference list. It's on the to-do list to see if I can make this a bit more predictable.

Stored SNITCH Values

Here are the SNITCH values (stored on the day) from the crossword.

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