Quick SNITCH

A quantitative guide to the degree of difficulty of the Times Quick Cryptic Crossword

Times Quick Cryptic Crossword 2857

Date 12 December 2024
Number 2857
Setter Joker
Day of week Thursday
NITCH 99
Count of ref solvers 79
Ref solvers excluded with errors 11
Link to crossword View Crossword*
Times for the Times Link 2857

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Detailed solving results

Reference, Tracked and Blog solvers with error-free solutions to this puzzle are shown below.

We also show the solver's Personal NITCH, which is their result on this puzzle compared to their average time, and the Wavelength Index of Times Cryptic Hardness, the WITCH, which is the Personal NITCH compared to the SNITCH.

Name TfTT Name Average time This time Personal NITCH WITCH
mohn 02:01 02:32 125 126
Paul Gilbert 02:27 02:31 102 103
cmjhutton 02:28 02:15 91 91
Jason 02:33 02:07 83 83
verlaine 02:34 03:10 123 124
mistigris 02:40 02:01 75 75
hilarym 02:46 02:28 89 89
aphis99 aphis99 02:47 02:22 85 85
Flimmy flammy 03:21 04:05 121 122
Sheapey Sheapey 03:25 03:48 111 112
richard 03:30 03:33 101 102
markdobell 03:39 03:41 100 101
Heyesey 03:43 05:36 150 151
Umpire 04:02 04:57 122 123
SimonAnthony 04:07 04:11 101 102
chindit 04:10 03:49 91 91
glheard 04:13 04:14 100 101
MikeOsborne 04:16 04:29 105 106
Glencairn 04:17 04:52 113 114
Tom Stubbs Tom Stubbs 04:25 05:42 129 130
tilbee 04:27 04:54 110 111
philjordan1147 BUSMAN 04:30 04:53 108 109
AlanS 04:31 03:36 79 79
lucyg43484 04:36 05:16 114 115
MK76 04:38 05:47 124 125
andrewlake 04:42 05:54 125 126
alexh 04:45 07:01 147 148
March 04:49 04:37 95 95
wwalker50 04:51 03:33 73 73
andy 04:53 04:55 100 101
neilr neilr 04:55 04:54 99 100
Bluejacket 05:01 03:31 70 70
Paul Bacon 05:02 05:49 115 116
LuckOfLucien 05:04 04:44 93 93
scrabbler 05:05 05:53 115 116
Liari 05:07 05:10 100 101
Tibthorpe 05:08 05:40 110 111
Ed freshpot 05:10 04:33 88 88
Zander 05:14 04:41 89 89
McBeakLives 05:14 07:22 140 141
Squallaby 05:15 04:12 80 80
Rabbitoh galspray 05:16 05:20 101 102
fshephe 05:17 03:22 63 63
cdb_100 05:19 04:34 85 85
7dPenguin 7dPenguin 05:19 05:47 108 109
AndyKnott321 05:21 06:37 123 124
nina s 05:22 04:39 86 86
rrricharrrd 05:35 06:41 119 120
KarenR 05:36 06:34 117 118
Looch 05:41 08:00 140 141
Encota 05:43 04:29 78 78
Finzi 05:44 06:52 119 120
Rosron 05:45 05:05 88 88
JayEm 05:45 05:22 93 93
Streaky Bacon 05:51 06:04 103 104
Freemers 05:55 06:21 107 108
mcrossib1 05:58 07:00 117 118
mw7000 06:01 07:03 117 118
Adelaider 06:06 04:16 69 69
Paul Hammond Paul Hammond 06:11 05:15 84 84
Jeremy Weissmann plusjeremy 06:12 08:21 134 135
Gaius 06:14 05:42 91 91
Adrian Cobb 06:17 05:48 92 92
Tudds 06:17 06:04 96 96
Mike C 06:20 06:06 96 96
Aloysius 06:21 08:37 135 136
Dzhigit 06:21 05:08 80 80
PGooden 06:25 07:11 111 112
hopkinb hopkinb 06:26 07:47 120 121
robinh 06:28 11:08 172 173
jon 06:38 08:04 121 122
GMcD 06:39 06:14 93 93
ilan 06:39 08:57 134 135
Vannyx 06:42 06:28 96 96
James P 06:48 10:04 148 149
uvofiz 06:49 08:32 125 126
Puzzleplease 06:52 07:51 114 115
DianeRS 06:56 07:34 109 110
valerian1967 07:00 06:38 94 94
Dvynys Dvynys 07:03 07:30 106 107
tds 07:04 05:41 80 80
Kalakuta72 07:05 06:23 90 90
Gussie 07:13 08:40 120 121
Corymbia Corymbia 07:20 07:46 105 106
janesa 07:27 07:32 101 102
Mike Harper Mike Harper 07:31 06:42 89 89
mjsaunders9 07:41 10:31 136 137
Mike Mansbridge 07:48 07:09 91 91
Desdeeloeste Desdeeloeste 07:48 06:52 88 88
drginacoco 07:48 06:59 89 89
wwicksteed 08:01 07:40 95 95
ulaca ulaca 08:06 09:01 111 112
plett11 Plett11 08:06 08:00 98 98
johndun John Dunleavy 08:10 07:38 93 93
Aldus 08:12 07:27 90 90
Templar Redux Templar 08:13 07:05 86 86
crosswordian 08:17 08:21 100 101
nigelmzzz 08:19 06:50 82 82
mattindoha 08:23 09:20 111 112
john.brassey 08:26 08:05 95 95
richardCV22 08:31 10:13 119 120
m5harp 08:33 06:59 81 81
goblin 08:40 09:27 109 110
vefatica vefatica 08:40 08:35 99 100
Edprof 08:40 08:52 102 103
kath 08:40 11:27 132 133
raincloud 08:42 06:08 70 70
Jeeves 08:43 08:28 97 97
gsriordan52 08:46 07:31 85 85
edwards.robert1 08:49 10:06 114 115
Deezzaa Deezzaa 08:53 10:42 120 121
jemcd33 09:08 05:33 60 60
CWM65 09:13 08:13 89 89
barracuda barracuda 09:26 11:28 121 122
hemantyd 09:59 08:50 88 88
RPY 10:09 10:19 101 102
starstruck starstruck_au 10:10 16:15 159 160
Birdingbob 10:13 08:31 83 83
annikins 10:15 10:39 103 104
TonyN6 10:17 10:46 104 105
russellcannon 10:26 09:51 94 94
Word Psmith 10:43 09:38 89 89
Nuck_the_king 10:47 13:57 129 130
Chimblet Lyle 10:47 07:16 67 67
BertieVII 11:22 10:59 96 96
simjt simjt 11:22 11:52 104 105
jarenstein 11:39 26:13 225 227
crucihacker 11:40 07:42 66 66
alistair.boere 12:10 17:53 146 147
martinr486 12:28 12:22 99 100
tyrotim tyrotim 12:30 12:40 101 102
WordPlodder BletchleyReject 12:33 18:09 144 145
chabuduo chabuduo 12:42 12:04 95 95
ifincham2 12:49 13:01 101 102
flashman flashman 12:59 13:00 100 101
Sonofjim 13:06 08:39 66 66
rlowin2 13:09 12:58 98 98
kapietro kapietro 13:32 19:00 140 141
Corbo 13:51 10:59 79 79
Doofenschmirtz Doofenschmirtz 14:13 17:22 122 123
Merlin_55 Merlin 14:13 16:21 115 116
Guy Hatton 14:55 12:57 86 86
The Real Steve Snackman 15:23 15:19 99 100
Holly O 15:28 15:46 101 102
kfb20 15:50 24:07 152 153
Xebeq 16:18 13:13 81 81
Steve Wood 16:29 23:17 141 142
Charpentier 16:30 18:44 113 114
tomtom2 17:35 14:09 80 80
david.14587 18:26 21:02 114 115
TonyK 18:49 19:10 101 102
New Driver 18:58 16:20 86 86
moirconsult 20:13 20:29 101 102
paulmcl 20:20 30:26 149 150
pfalloon 20:37 19:53 96 96
Hazelnut 20:48 22:26 107 108
david 21:23 27:07 126 127
maryht 22:15 17:00 76 76
pamelalewis51 24:28 22:56 93 93
youngbaz 24:29 12:36 51 51
shankar 25:57 21:27 82 82
IanV IanV 33:39 28:00 83 83
deebeeem 42:16 15:01 35 35
mcfarl 44:51 59:01 131 132

A guide to the solver status

Legend
 Reference solver used for SNITCH
 Other Reference solver
 Tracked solver
 Blog solver

Blog Solvers

Blog Solvers are those who have allowed their times to be taken from the Times for the Times blog.

Notes for Blog Solvers:

  • the most reliable format for reporting times is with format "mm:ss" or as "x minutes" in the title or at the start of the entry
  • only the first main comment for each blogger is used; responses to other comments or a second comment is ignored
  • to report errors, include "n errors" just after the time
  • If you just have a time it is assumed you have no errors unless you mention DNF or pink squares or giving up, etc, in the text
  • Examples of good time notifications are "38:30, 0 errors" and "39 minutes, 0 errors" in the comment title or as the first part of your comment

Notes

The definition of Reference and Tracked solvers is described on the Neutrinos page.

The results for Reference solvers are normally used to calcuate the SNITCH. When this happens they are shown in the list with a solid blue line to the left. In the previous SNITCH results listing for each crossword, these were the only entries shown.

The most common causes for Reference solver results not to be used are: (a) that they did not meet the criteria this month to be used as a reference (e.g. they may not have completed enough puzzles on each day of the week) or (b) they have been pushed out of the top 100 on the leader board. In these cases, the results are now shown, but their data is not used for the SNITCH calculation.

Where there is data for Tracked solvers, I show them also in this table. The solving data is not always available, as the Crossword Club site only shows the top 100 solvers to everyone. Logged-in users get their own leaderboard position and those around them, but this is not available to everyone. So the SNITCH site only gets data for those who have made the top 100 in the leaderboard at some point during the day.

As a result there are a few geographically advantaged solvers; those of us who solve early in the day (e.g. we in the Antipodes, those in Asia and those staying up late in North America) are more likely to hit the leaderboard even with slower times. Solvers who are just as capable but solve later in the UK day might not make the top 100 and I have no way to capture their results.

You may wonder why there are Tracked solvers (in red) with low average solving times, mixed in with the Reference solvers (in blue). These are usually those that, while they don't seem to be Neutrinos, are not well aligned to the SNITCH. So I don't use them as Reference solvers in the SNITCH calculation, but still show their overall results.

You might also notice that there's some inconsistency at the tail end of the Reference solver list. My cutoff point is an average solving time of 45 minutes. But if someone around this mark is chosen as a Reference solver, their next month's results might end up being over 45 minutes and they will still be used. Alternatively, a Tracked solver might creep in under 45 minutes on the next calculation, but didn't make the cut for the prior Reference list. It's on the to-do list to see if I can make this a bit more predictable.

Stored SNITCH Values

Here are the SNITCH values (stored on the day) from the crossword.

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