Quick SNITCH

A quantitative guide to the degree of difficulty of the Times Quick Cryptic Crossword

Times Quick Cryptic Crossword 2785

Date 19 September 2024
Number 2785
Setter Joker
Day of week Thursday
NITCH 99
Count of ref solvers 69
Ref solvers excluded with errors 9
Link to crossword View Crossword*
Times for the Times Link 2785

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Detailed solving results

Reference, Tracked and Blog solvers with error-free solutions to this puzzle are shown below.

We also show the solver's Personal NITCH, which is their result on this puzzle compared to their average time, and the Wavelength Index of Times Cryptic Hardness, the WITCH, which is the Personal NITCH compared to the SNITCH.

Name TfTT Name Average time This time Personal NITCH WITCH
mohn 02:01 01:58 97 97
Jason 02:25 02:33 105 106
Paul Gilbert 02:30 02:35 103 104
cmjhutton 02:30 02:14 89 89
mistigris 02:39 02:58 111 112
verlaine 02:41 02:13 82 82
aphis99 aphis99 02:42 02:38 97 97
hilarym 02:46 02:44 98 98
Flimmy flammy 03:15 03:16 100 101
markdobell 03:40 03:07 85 85
Ciolf 03:52 04:12 108 109
SimonAnthony 04:03 04:39 114 115
chindit 04:06 03:37 88 88
Golvellius 04:12 04:10 99 100
MikeOsborne 04:12 04:14 100 101
lickert 04:15 03:48 89 89
Tom Stubbs Tom Stubbs 04:21 03:50 88 88
lucyg43484 04:28 04:31 101 102
philjordan1147 BUSMAN 04:28 05:43 127 128
tilbee 04:30 04:31 100 101
canismiser 04:30 04:35 101 102
Morphosis 04:33 04:02 88 88
MK76 04:36 05:04 110 111
AlanS 04:40 04:09 88 88
daulbs 04:43 04:46 101 102
andrewlake 04:46 04:38 97 97
March 04:46 04:26 93 93
alexh 04:46 04:06 86 86
LouWeed LouWeed 04:47 04:23 91 91
scrabbler 04:53 05:56 121 122
andy 04:58 04:15 85 85
neilr neilr 04:58 05:20 107 108
LuckOfLucien 05:02 04:08 82 82
Tibthorpe 05:05 05:53 115 116
cdb_100 05:12 09:07 175 176
Zander 05:12 07:10 137 138
fshephe 05:12 05:20 102 103
Squallaby 05:13 05:37 107 108
7dPenguin 7dPenguin 05:17 06:10 116 117
ChuckB 05:20 05:01 94 94
Rabbitoh galspray 05:21 05:35 104 105
Bluejacket 05:27 06:23 117 118
Penfold_61 05:32 06:23 115 116
nina s 05:36 06:15 111 112
Looch 05:44 05:43 99 100
footballblue 05:44 04:55 85 85
Finzi 05:44 05:29 95 95
Encota 05:46 05:01 86 86
rrricharrrd 05:52 11:25 194 195
mw7000 05:55 06:56 117 118
KET 05:56 08:12 138 139
Vannyx 05:57 06:16 105 106
Freemers 05:58 03:59 66 66
Curarist 06:07 08:36 140 141
Aloysius 06:09 08:18 134 135
Paul Hammond Paul Hammond 06:11 06:38 107 108
Gaius 06:12 07:01 113 114
robinh 06:19 08:40 137 138
Michael Dove 06:20 09:28 149 150
Tudds 06:21 07:33 118 119
hopkinb hopkinb 06:22 05:09 80 80
GMcD 06:25 06:17 97 97
fishernick79 06:25 05:42 88 88
PGooden 06:26 05:03 78 78
Jeremy Weissmann plusjeremy 06:27 07:55 122 123
jimwetzler 06:29 06:20 97 97
paul.whitehouse69 06:30 08:39 133 134
ilan 06:39 06:28 97 97
Kevin Gregg Kevin Gregg 06:42 08:00 119 120
uvofiz 06:43 07:23 109 110
James P 06:45 06:12 91 91
FraserH 06:52 07:09 104 105
Puzzleplease 06:53 07:28 108 109
Dvynys Dvynys 07:00 08:26 120 121
nigel 07:03 24:40 349 352
janesa 07:10 09:09 127 128
Obrador 07:14 07:57 109 110
1234 07:16 07:17 100 101
KenD51 07:18 05:03 69 69
Kalakuta72 07:18 06:06 83 83
Corymbia Corymbia 07:25 06:49 91 91
ChrisBrea 07:28 07:43 103 104
Mike Harper Mike Harper 07:35 06:44 88 88
andrewfeist96 07:41 07:18 95 95
earlylight 07:42 10:17 133 134
DamienKnapma 07:47 10:18 132 133
wwicksteed 07:52 11:21 144 145
endafk 07:55 06:40 84 84
drginacoco 07:56 08:13 103 104
plett11 Plett11 07:58 09:33 119 120
TomHerbert 08:00 10:44 134 135
robertbridge 08:03 06:31 80 80
johndun John Dunleavy 08:06 10:43 132 133
m5harp 08:08 13:18 163 164
richardCV22 08:10 10:27 127 128
nigelmzzz 08:11 08:22 102 103
Templar Redux Templar 08:12 07:23 90 90
ulaca ulaca 08:18 08:35 103 104
Sheen 08:25 08:34 101 102
Zabadak3 Zabadak 08:25 06:39 79 79
GMB 08:31 11:26 134 135
mattindoha 08:35 11:03 128 129
Deezzaa Deezzaa 08:36 12:06 140 141
vefatica vefatica 08:37 06:31 75 75
jemcd33 08:43 09:43 111 112
CoxBurglar 08:44 11:22 130 131
goblin 08:45 08:37 98 98
hipponym 08:47 12:26 141 142
Mkgnao Mkgnao 08:49 17:20 196 197
luxtonj61 08:50 09:53 111 112
Jeeves 08:55 12:17 137 138
edwards.robert1 09:03 08:00 88 88
raincloud 09:05 10:26 114 115
hemantyd 09:27 09:24 99 100
Nigel1953 09:29 08:01 84 84
Poff 09:36 10:12 106 107
uffindellbirtjn 09:38 09:33 99 100
TonyN6 10:02 12:37 125 126
Pendrov 10:02 10:44 106 107
maisiemae 10:05 09:13 91 91
Birdingbob 10:14 10:13 99 100
BertieVII 10:43 15:57 148 149
Word Psmith 10:43 15:42 146 147
starstruck starstruck_au 10:54 14:47 135 136
hookyt 11:01 12:01 109 110
MichaelE 11:02 10:01 90 90
Rhys 11:03 13:54 125 126
Arachnidus 11:08 15:41 140 141
Struwa Struwa 11:14 09:57 88 88
horners1974 Jonathan Hornby 11:15 11:24 101 102
simjt simjt 11:42 13:03 111 112
SlowSteady 11:44 13:09 112 113
Sonofjim 12:31 11:41 93 93
alistair.boere 12:49 13:12 102 103
flashman flashman 13:11 20:00 151 152
SMSEsq 13:19 16:49 126 127
chabuduo chabuduo 13:21 10:19 77 77
Dofray 13:24 26:10 195 196
kapietro kapietro 13:40 12:43 93 93
Merlin_55 Merlin 13:53 15:34 112 113
Mendes Mendesest 15:00 18:24 122 123
Xebeq 15:11 20:37 135 136
kfb20 15:43 21:38 137 138
Holly O 15:55 16:07 101 102
Steve Wood 16:04 18:45 116 117
Guy Hatton 16:28 19:26 118 119
The Real Steve Snackman 16:50 11:47 70 70
thechan 17:06 20:27 119 120
Jax74 17:17 09:27 54 54
TonyK 18:34 24:07 129 130
pfalloon 19:05 15:32 81 81
david.14587 19:22 19:14 99 100
Jean in Oxford 19:23 16:41 86 86
Mark from Ipswich 20:33 20:55 101 102
mozbadel mozbadel 20:35 31:56 155 156
Pontypandy 21:12 46:39 220 222
moirconsult 21:30 28:17 131 132
maryht 22:07 18:28 83 83
pamelalewis51 24:29 88:31 361 364
danielbluebisson 24:51 13:17 53 53
Pompeydave 26:33 24:53 93 93
shankar 32:05 33:15 103 104
mcfarl 42:45 52:23 122 123
youngbaz 45:42 15:01 32 32
deebeeem 49:59 13:25 26 26

A guide to the solver status

Legend
 Reference solver used for SNITCH
 Other Reference solver
 Tracked solver
 Blog solver

Blog Solvers

Blog Solvers are those who have allowed their times to be taken from the Times for the Times blog.

Notes for Blog Solvers:

  • the most reliable format for reporting times is with format "mm:ss" or as "x minutes" in the title or at the start of the entry
  • only the first main comment for each blogger is used; responses to other comments or a second comment is ignored
  • to report errors, include "n errors" just after the time
  • If you just have a time it is assumed you have no errors unless you mention DNF or pink squares or giving up, etc, in the text
  • Examples of good time notifications are "38:30, 0 errors" and "39 minutes, 0 errors" in the comment title or as the first part of your comment

Notes

The definition of Reference and Tracked solvers is described on the Neutrinos page.

The results for Reference solvers are normally used to calcuate the SNITCH. When this happens they are shown in the list with a solid blue line to the left. In the previous SNITCH results listing for each crossword, these were the only entries shown.

The most common causes for Reference solver results not to be used are: (a) that they did not meet the criteria this month to be used as a reference (e.g. they may not have completed enough puzzles on each day of the week) or (b) they have been pushed out of the top 100 on the leader board. In these cases, the results are now shown, but their data is not used for the SNITCH calculation.

Where there is data for Tracked solvers, I show them also in this table. The solving data is not always available, as the Crossword Club site only shows the top 100 solvers to everyone. Logged-in users get their own leaderboard position and those around them, but this is not available to everyone. So the SNITCH site only gets data for those who have made the top 100 in the leaderboard at some point during the day.

As a result there are a few geographically advantaged solvers; those of us who solve early in the day (e.g. we in the Antipodes, those in Asia and those staying up late in North America) are more likely to hit the leaderboard even with slower times. Solvers who are just as capable but solve later in the UK day might not make the top 100 and I have no way to capture their results.

You may wonder why there are Tracked solvers (in red) with low average solving times, mixed in with the Reference solvers (in blue). These are usually those that, while they don't seem to be Neutrinos, are not well aligned to the SNITCH. So I don't use them as Reference solvers in the SNITCH calculation, but still show their overall results.

You might also notice that there's some inconsistency at the tail end of the Reference solver list. My cutoff point is an average solving time of 45 minutes. But if someone around this mark is chosen as a Reference solver, their next month's results might end up being over 45 minutes and they will still be used. Alternatively, a Tracked solver might creep in under 45 minutes on the next calculation, but didn't make the cut for the prior Reference list. It's on the to-do list to see if I can make this a bit more predictable.

Stored SNITCH Values

Here are the SNITCH values (stored on the day) from the crossword.

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