Quick SNITCH

A quantitative guide to the degree of difficulty of the Times Quick Cryptic Crossword

Times Quick Cryptic Crossword 2785

Date 19 September 2024
Number 2785
Setter Joker
Day of week Thursday
NITCH 103
Count of ref solvers 74
Ref solvers excluded with errors 9
Link to crossword View Crossword*
Times for the Times Link 2785

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Detailed solving results

Reference, Tracked and Blog solvers with error-free solutions to this puzzle are shown below.

We also show the solver's Personal NITCH, which is their result on this puzzle compared to their average time, and the Wavelength Index of Times Cryptic Hardness, the WITCH, which is the Personal NITCH compared to the SNITCH.

Name TfTT Name Average time This time Personal NITCH WITCH
mohn 02:01 01:58 97 94
Jason 02:25 02:33 105 101
cmjhutton 02:30 02:14 89 86
mistigris 02:39 02:58 111 107
verlaine 02:41 02:13 82 79
aphis99 aphis99 02:42 02:38 97 94
Flimmy flammy 03:15 03:16 100 97
markdobell 03:40 03:07 85 82
Ciolf 03:52 04:12 108 104
SimonAnthony 04:03 04:39 114 110
chindit 04:06 03:37 88 85
MikeOsborne 04:12 04:14 100 97
lickert 04:15 03:48 89 86
Tom Stubbs Tom Stubbs 04:21 03:50 88 85
lucyg43484 04:28 04:31 101 98
philjordan1147 BUSMAN 04:28 05:43 127 123
tilbee 04:30 04:31 100 97
canismiser 04:30 04:35 101 98
Morphosis 04:33 04:02 88 85
MK76 04:36 05:04 110 106
andrewlake 04:46 04:38 97 94
March 04:46 04:26 93 90
alexh 04:46 04:06 86 83
LouWeed LouWeed 04:47 04:23 91 88
scrabbler 04:53 05:56 121 117
andy 04:58 04:15 85 82
neilr neilr 04:58 05:20 107 103
LuckOfLucien 05:02 04:08 82 79
Tibthorpe 05:05 05:53 115 111
cdb_100 05:12 09:07 175 169
Zander 05:12 07:10 137 133
fshephe 05:12 05:20 102 99
Squallaby 05:13 05:37 107 103
7dPenguin 7dPenguin 05:17 06:10 116 112
Rabbitoh 05:21 05:35 104 100
Bluejacket 05:27 06:23 117 113
nina s 05:36 06:15 111 107
Looch 05:44 05:43 99 96
Finzi 05:44 05:29 95 92
rrricharrrd 05:52 11:25 194 188
mw7000 05:55 06:56 117 113
Vannyx 05:57 06:16 105 101
Freemers 05:58 03:59 66 64
Curarist 06:07 08:36 140 135
Paul Hammond Paul Hammond 06:11 06:38 107 103
robinh 06:19 08:40 137 133
Michael Dove 06:20 09:28 149 144
Tudds 06:21 07:33 118 114
hopkinb hopkinb 06:22 05:09 80 77
GMcD 06:25 06:17 97 94
fishernick79 06:25 05:42 88 85
PGooden 06:26 05:03 78 75
Jeremy Weissmann plusjeremy 06:27 07:55 122 118
jimwetzler 06:29 06:20 97 94
paul.whitehouse69 06:30 08:39 133 129
ilan 06:39 06:28 97 94
Kevin Gregg Kevin Gregg 06:42 08:00 119 115
James P 06:45 06:12 91 88
FraserH 06:52 07:09 104 100
Puzzleplease 06:53 07:28 108 104
Dvynys Dvynys 07:00 08:26 120 116
nigel 07:03 24:40 349 338
janesa 07:10 09:09 127 123
Obrador 07:14 07:57 109 105
1234 07:16 07:17 100 97
Corymbia Corymbia 07:25 06:49 91 88
ChrisBrea 07:28 07:43 103 100
Mike Harper Mike Harper 07:35 06:44 88 85
andrewfeist96 07:41 07:18 95 92
earlylight 07:42 10:17 133 129
DamienKnapma 07:47 10:18 132 128
wwicksteed 07:52 11:21 144 139
endafk 07:55 06:40 84 81
drginacoco 07:56 08:13 103 100
plett11 Plett11 07:58 09:33 119 115
TomHerbert 08:00 10:44 134 130
robertbridge 08:03 06:31 80 77
johndun John Dunleavy 08:06 10:43 132 128
m5harp 08:08 13:18 163 158
richardCV22 08:10 10:27 127 123
nigelmzzz 08:11 08:22 102 99
Templar Redux Templar 08:12 07:23 90 87
ulaca ulaca 08:18 08:35 103 100
Sheen 08:25 08:34 101 98
Zabadak3 Zabadak 08:25 06:39 79 76
GMB 08:31 11:26 134 130
mattindoha 08:35 11:03 128 124
Deezzaa Deezzaa 08:36 12:06 140 135
vefatica vefatica 08:37 06:31 75 72
CoxBurglar 08:44 11:22 130 126
goblin 08:45 08:37 98 95
hipponym 08:47 12:26 141 136
Mkgnao Mkgnao 08:49 17:20 196 190
luxtonj61 08:50 09:53 111 107
Jeeves 08:55 12:17 137 133
edwards.robert1 09:03 08:00 88 85
raincloud 09:05 10:26 114 110
hemantyd 09:27 09:24 99 96
Nigel1953 09:29 08:01 84 81
Poff 09:36 10:12 106 102
uffindellbirtjn 09:38 09:33 99 96
Pendrov 10:02 10:44 106 102
TonyN6 10:02 12:37 125 121
maisiemae 10:05 09:13 91 88
Birdingbob 10:14 10:13 99 96
BertieVII 10:43 15:57 148 143
Word Psmith 10:43 15:42 146 141
starstruck starstruck_au 10:54 14:47 135 131
hookyt 11:01 12:01 109 105
MichaelE 11:02 10:01 90 87
Rhys 11:03 13:54 125 121
Arachnidus 11:08 15:41 140 135
Struwa Struwa 11:14 09:57 88 85
horners1974 11:15 11:24 101 98
simjt simjt 11:42 13:03 111 107
SlowSteady 11:44 13:09 112 108
Sonofjim 12:31 11:41 93 90
alistair.boere 12:49 13:12 102 99
flashman flashman 13:11 20:00 151 146
SMSEsq 13:19 16:49 126 122
Dofray 13:24 26:10 195 189
kapietro kapietro 13:40 12:43 93 90
Merlin_55 Merlin 13:53 15:34 112 108
Mendes 15:00 18:24 122 118
Xebeq 15:11 20:37 135 131
kfb20 15:43 21:38 137 133
Holly O 15:55 16:07 101 98
Steve Wood 16:04 18:45 116 112
Guy Hatton 16:28 19:26 118 114
The Real Steve Snackman 16:50 11:47 70 67
thechan 17:06 20:27 119 115
Jax74 17:17 09:27 54 52
TonyK 18:34 24:07 129 125
pfalloon 19:05 15:32 81 78
david.14587 19:22 19:14 99 96
Jean in Oxford 19:23 16:41 86 83
Mark from Ipswich 20:33 20:55 101 98
mozbadel mozbadel 20:35 31:56 155 150
Pontypandy 21:12 46:39 220 213
moirconsult 21:30 28:17 131 127
maryht 22:07 18:28 83 80
pamelalewis51 24:29 88:31 361 350
danielbluebisson 24:51 13:17 53 51
Pompeydave 26:33 24:53 93 90
shankar 32:05 33:15 103 100
mcfarl 42:45 52:23 122 118
youngbaz 45:42 15:01 32 31
deebeeem 49:59 13:25 26 25

A guide to the solver status

Legend
 Reference solver used for SNITCH
 Other Reference solver
 Tracked solver
 Blog solver

Blog Solvers

Blog Solvers are those who have allowed their times to be taken from the Times for the Times blog.

Notes for Blog Solvers:

  • the most reliable format for reporting times is with format "mm:ss" or as "x minutes" in the title or at the start of the entry
  • only the first main comment for each blogger is used; responses to other comments or a second comment is ignored
  • to report errors, include "n errors" just after the time
  • If you just have a time it is assumed you have no errors unless you mention DNF or pink squares or giving up, etc, in the text
  • Examples of good time notifications are "38:30, 0 errors" and "39 minutes, 0 errors" in the comment title or as the first part of your comment

Notes

The definition of Reference and Tracked solvers is described on the Neutrinos page.

The results for Reference solvers are normally used to calcuate the SNITCH. When this happens they are shown in the list with a solid blue line to the left. In the previous SNITCH results listing for each crossword, these were the only entries shown.

The most common causes for Reference solver results not to be used are: (a) that they did not meet the criteria this month to be used as a reference (e.g. they may not have completed enough puzzles on each day of the week) or (b) they have been pushed out of the top 100 on the leader board. In these cases, the results are now shown, but their data is not used for the SNITCH calculation.

Where there is data for Tracked solvers, I show them also in this table. The solving data is not always available, as the Crossword Club site only shows the top 100 solvers to everyone. Logged-in users get their own leaderboard position and those around them, but this is not available to everyone. So the SNITCH site only gets data for those who have made the top 100 in the leaderboard at some point during the day.

As a result there are a few geographically advantaged solvers; those of us who solve early in the day (e.g. we in the Antipodes, those in Asia and those staying up late in North America) are more likely to hit the leaderboard even with slower times. Solvers who are just as capable but solve later in the UK day might not make the top 100 and I have no way to capture their results.

You may wonder why there are Tracked solvers (in red) with low average solving times, mixed in with the Reference solvers (in blue). These are usually those that, while they don't seem to be Neutrinos, are not well aligned to the SNITCH. So I don't use them as Reference solvers in the SNITCH calculation, but still show their overall results.

You might also notice that there's some inconsistency at the tail end of the Reference solver list. My cutoff point is an average solving time of 45 minutes. But if someone around this mark is chosen as a Reference solver, their next month's results might end up being over 45 minutes and they will still be used. Alternatively, a Tracked solver might creep in under 45 minutes on the next calculation, but didn't make the cut for the prior Reference list. It's on the to-do list to see if I can make this a bit more predictable.

Stored SNITCH Values

Here are the SNITCH values (stored on the day) from the crossword.

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