Quick SNITCH

A quantitative guide to the degree of difficulty of the Times Quick Cryptic Crossword

Times Quick Cryptic Crossword 2788

Date 23 September 2024
Number 2788
Setter Orpheus
Day of week Monday
NITCH 89
Count of ref solvers 74
Ref solvers excluded with errors 12
Link to crossword View Crossword*
Times for the Times Link 2788

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Detailed solving results

Reference, Tracked and Blog solvers with error-free solutions to this puzzle are shown below.

We also show the solver's Personal NITCH, which is their result on this puzzle compared to their average time, and the Wavelength Index of Times Cryptic Hardness, the WITCH, which is the Personal NITCH compared to the SNITCH.

Name TfTT Name Average time This time Personal NITCH WITCH
mohn 02:01 02:12 109 122
Jason 02:25 02:23 98 110
Paul Gilbert 02:30 02:43 108 121
cmjhutton 02:30 02:01 80 89
verlaine 02:41 02:10 80 89
aphis99 aphis99 02:42 02:55 108 121
hilarym 02:46 02:17 82 92
Flimmy flammy 03:15 02:53 88 98
Sheapey Sheapey 03:19 02:59 89 100
Heyesey 03:39 03:22 92 103
markdobell 03:40 03:18 90 101
Ciolf 03:52 04:34 118 132
Topical Tim Topical Tim 03:53 03:53 100 112
Kinghedger 03:58 03:31 88 98
SimonAnthony 04:03 04:29 110 123
chindit 04:06 03:40 89 100
Roscoe 04:11 04:38 110 123
MikeOsborne 04:12 05:15 125 140
lickert 04:15 03:15 76 85
Tom Stubbs Tom Stubbs 04:21 03:28 79 88
philjordan1147 BUSMAN 04:28 03:39 81 91
lucyg43484 04:28 03:31 78 87
tilbee 04:30 03:56 87 97
canismiser 04:30 03:05 68 76
Honggui 04:32 04:35 101 113
MK76 04:36 04:38 100 112
AlanS 04:40 03:44 80 89
toots 04:44 04:09 87 97
andrewlake 04:46 04:41 98 110
alexh 04:46 04:27 93 104
March 04:46 03:46 79 88
CentralLine CentralLine 04:47 04:49 100 112
Ed freshpot 04:52 04:22 89 100
scrabbler 04:53 05:05 104 116
Paul Bacon 04:57 04:27 89 100
andy 04:58 03:29 70 78
neilr neilr 04:58 04:17 86 96
LuckOfLucien 05:02 04:54 97 108
pitcaithlie Pitcaithlie 05:04 04:04 80 89
Liari 05:05 05:35 109 122
Tibthorpe 05:05 05:16 103 115
Johninterred 05:05 05:40 111 124
McBeakLives 05:11 05:42 109 122
Zander 05:12 04:17 82 92
Squallaby 05:13 04:45 91 102
7dPenguin 7dPenguin 05:17 04:29 84 94
ChuckB 05:20 05:09 96 107
Rabbitoh galspray 05:21 05:26 101 113
esmeralda 05:31 05:11 93 104
nina s 05:36 05:08 91 102
denislaw 05:43 04:36 80 89
Finzi 05:44 05:01 87 97
Looch 05:44 04:48 83 93
rrricharrrd 05:52 04:38 78 87
mw7000 05:55 06:37 111 124
KET 05:56 05:57 100 112
Vannyx 05:57 08:12 137 153
Freemers 05:58 06:07 102 114
cmcnsmith 05:59 06:26 107 120
mcrossib1 06:03 05:13 86 96
Rosron 06:07 05:59 97 108
RobR RobR 06:09 05:26 88 98
Paul Hammond Paul Hammond 06:11 06:36 106 119
julian_w 06:14 06:07 98 110
Onelug 06:16 10:48 172 193
Adrian Cobb 06:16 05:19 84 94
Dzhigit 06:18 06:24 101 113
Tudds 06:21 04:58 78 87
hopkinb hopkinb 06:22 05:57 93 104
Mike C 06:24 05:35 87 97
fishernick79 06:25 05:33 86 96
GMcD 06:25 06:03 94 105
PGooden 06:26 05:35 86 96
jimwetzler 06:29 07:06 109 122
Riche Riche 06:36 05:32 83 93
ilan 06:39 05:44 86 96
SlumdogEngineer 06:40 04:57 74 83
tom.healey 06:43 06:05 90 101
James P 06:45 06:50 101 113
jon 06:52 06:27 93 104
Puzzleplease 06:53 06:32 94 105
DianeRS 06:58 05:20 76 85
valerian1967 06:59 07:00 100 112
Dvynys Dvynys 07:00 07:50 111 124
Andrew Whiffin 07:09 07:32 105 117
janesa 07:10 07:19 102 114
Obrador 07:14 07:26 102 114
Kalakuta72 07:18 06:00 82 92
martinede 07:21 07:15 98 110
banishspam 07:24 06:44 90 101
Corymbia Corymbia 07:25 07:48 105 117
ChrisBrea 07:28 05:25 72 80
Mike Harper Mike Harper 07:35 07:51 103 115
Desdeeloeste Desdeeloeste 07:40 08:22 109 122
John Arnold 07:44 05:37 72 80
DamienKnapma 07:47 12:48 164 184
endafk 07:55 08:01 101 113
plett11 Plett11 07:58 05:34 69 77
docg 08:03 08:14 102 114
johndun John Dunleavy 08:06 07:30 92 103
dec 08:07 09:35 118 132
m5harp 08:08 07:48 95 106
richardCV22 08:10 07:23 90 101
nigelmzzz 08:11 06:20 77 86
Julian Forbes 08:11 07:56 96 107
Templar Redux Templar 08:12 08:29 103 115
jaraab 08:17 08:50 106 119
ulaca ulaca 08:18 06:29 78 87
gsriordan52 08:20 06:56 83 93
Sheen 08:25 06:39 79 88
kath 08:34 08:20 97 108
mattindoha 08:35 06:07 71 79
Deezzaa Deezzaa 08:36 09:52 114 128
vefatica vefatica 08:37 07:46 90 101
crucihacker 08:39 08:37 99 111
vinyl12345 vinyl1 08:41 09:00 103 115
jemcd33 08:43 08:28 97 108
CoxBurglar 08:44 14:55 170 191
goblin 08:45 07:32 86 96
smalley552 08:46 11:48 134 150
Mkgnao Mkgnao 08:49 08:14 93 104
luxtonj61 08:50 07:05 80 89
Rowleyrag 08:53 09:58 112 125
JeffHobbs 08:54 12:20 138 155
Jeeves 08:55 07:54 88 98
edwards.robert1 09:03 06:56 76 85
barracuda barracuda 09:05 07:19 80 89
piltdown man 09:25 08:29 90 101
hemantyd 09:27 08:23 88 98
Poff 09:36 08:13 85 95
Mike Mansbridge 09:46 06:03 61 68
TonyN6 10:02 05:59 59 66
Pendrov 10:02 09:58 99 111
Birdingbob 10:14 10:30 102 114
russellcannon 10:40 11:42 109 122
Nuck_the_king 10:49 06:37 61 68
starstruck starstruck_au 10:54 07:32 69 77
symbenall2 10:58 09:53 90 101
Struwa Struwa 11:14 11:11 99 111
WordPlodder BletchleyReject 11:34 14:50 128 143
albrecht1959 11:35 07:52 67 75
simjt simjt 11:42 10:34 90 101
martinr486 12:15 13:28 109 122
Oldandweary 12:24 12:45 102 114
Sonofjim 12:31 16:43 133 149
ifincham2 12:40 11:57 94 105
chabuduo chabuduo 13:21 13:53 103 115
kapietro kapietro 13:40 12:42 92 103
Corbo 13:50 13:17 96 107
Merlin_55 Merlin 13:53 12:16 88 98
Doofenschmirtz Doofenschmirtz 14:43 12:14 83 93
Mendes Mendesest 15:00 23:12 154 173
kfb20 15:43 14:58 95 106
Charpentier 16:22 17:25 106 119
The Real Steve Snackman 16:50 13:27 79 88
thechan 17:06 20:44 121 135
Jax74 17:17 12:04 69 77
tomtom2 17:48 17:41 99 111
dankramlich 17:59 17:32 97 108
daverob 18:06 17:54 98 110
Masha 18:15 09:54 54 60
TonyK 18:34 18:35 100 112
pfalloon 19:05 14:02 73 82
david.14587 19:22 17:05 88 98
Cathyhuns 19:35 02:56 14 15
New Driver 20:19 16:17 80 89
Mark from Ipswich 20:33 16:34 80 89
Pontypandy 21:12 23:42 111 124
maryht 22:07 30:18 137 153
ian.shepherd 23:01 17:12 74 83
pamelalewis51 24:29 29:34 120 134
danielbluebisson 24:51 13:24 53 59
Pompeydave 26:33 27:12 102 114
Sotogrande1 30:14 15:30 51 57
shankar 32:05 17:39 55 61
mcfarl 42:45 37:09 86 96
youngbaz 45:42 08:48 19 21
deebeeem 49:59 109:24 218 244

A guide to the solver status

Legend
 Reference solver used for SNITCH
 Other Reference solver
 Tracked solver
 Blog solver

Blog Solvers

Blog Solvers are those who have allowed their times to be taken from the Times for the Times blog.

Notes for Blog Solvers:

  • the most reliable format for reporting times is with format "mm:ss" or as "x minutes" in the title or at the start of the entry
  • only the first main comment for each blogger is used; responses to other comments or a second comment is ignored
  • to report errors, include "n errors" just after the time
  • If you just have a time it is assumed you have no errors unless you mention DNF or pink squares or giving up, etc, in the text
  • Examples of good time notifications are "38:30, 0 errors" and "39 minutes, 0 errors" in the comment title or as the first part of your comment

Notes

The definition of Reference and Tracked solvers is described on the Neutrinos page.

The results for Reference solvers are normally used to calcuate the SNITCH. When this happens they are shown in the list with a solid blue line to the left. In the previous SNITCH results listing for each crossword, these were the only entries shown.

The most common causes for Reference solver results not to be used are: (a) that they did not meet the criteria this month to be used as a reference (e.g. they may not have completed enough puzzles on each day of the week) or (b) they have been pushed out of the top 100 on the leader board. In these cases, the results are now shown, but their data is not used for the SNITCH calculation.

Where there is data for Tracked solvers, I show them also in this table. The solving data is not always available, as the Crossword Club site only shows the top 100 solvers to everyone. Logged-in users get their own leaderboard position and those around them, but this is not available to everyone. So the SNITCH site only gets data for those who have made the top 100 in the leaderboard at some point during the day.

As a result there are a few geographically advantaged solvers; those of us who solve early in the day (e.g. we in the Antipodes, those in Asia and those staying up late in North America) are more likely to hit the leaderboard even with slower times. Solvers who are just as capable but solve later in the UK day might not make the top 100 and I have no way to capture their results.

You may wonder why there are Tracked solvers (in red) with low average solving times, mixed in with the Reference solvers (in blue). These are usually those that, while they don't seem to be Neutrinos, are not well aligned to the SNITCH. So I don't use them as Reference solvers in the SNITCH calculation, but still show their overall results.

You might also notice that there's some inconsistency at the tail end of the Reference solver list. My cutoff point is an average solving time of 45 minutes. But if someone around this mark is chosen as a Reference solver, their next month's results might end up being over 45 minutes and they will still be used. Alternatively, a Tracked solver might creep in under 45 minutes on the next calculation, but didn't make the cut for the prior Reference list. It's on the to-do list to see if I can make this a bit more predictable.

Stored SNITCH Values

Here are the SNITCH values (stored on the day) from the crossword.

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