Quick SNITCH

A quantitative guide to the degree of difficulty of the Times Quick Cryptic Crossword

Times Quick Cryptic Crossword 2851

Date 05 December 2024
Number 2851
Setter Jimmy
Day of week Thursday
NITCH 81
Count of ref solvers 82
Ref solvers excluded with errors 5
Link to crossword View Crossword*
Times for the Times Link 2851

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Detailed solving results

Reference, Tracked and Blog solvers with error-free solutions to this puzzle are shown below.

We also show the solver's Personal NITCH, which is their result on this puzzle compared to their average time, and the Wavelength Index of Times Cryptic Hardness, the WITCH, which is the Personal NITCH compared to the SNITCH.

Name TfTT Name Average time This time Personal NITCH WITCH
mohn 02:01 01:45 86 106
Paul Gilbert 02:27 01:50 74 91
cmjhutton 02:28 01:39 66 81
Jason 02:33 02:07 83 102
verlaine 02:34 02:49 109 134
mistigris 02:40 02:33 95 117
hilarym 02:46 02:27 88 108
aphis99 aphis99 02:47 01:56 69 85
Flimmy flammy 03:21 02:39 79 97
richard 03:30 03:25 97 119
markdobell 03:39 03:07 85 104
Heyesey 03:43 02:56 78 96
Topical Tim Topical Tim 03:54 02:43 69 85
Ciolf 03:55 02:49 71 87
Kinghedger 03:59 02:49 70 86
Umpire 04:02 03:03 75 92
Golvellius 04:06 04:02 98 120
SimonAnthony 04:07 03:40 89 109
chindit 04:10 04:36 110 135
glheard 04:13 05:16 124 153
MikeOsborne 04:16 03:18 77 95
lickert 04:22 04:16 97 119
Tom Stubbs Tom Stubbs 04:25 03:44 84 103
tilbee 04:27 05:25 121 149
philjordan1147 BUSMAN 04:30 03:29 77 95
canismiser 04:31 03:54 86 106
AlanS 04:31 03:49 84 103
Honggui 04:32 04:42 103 127
lucyg43484 04:36 04:36 100 123
MK76 04:38 02:54 62 76
andrewlake 04:42 03:19 70 86
toots 04:42 05:05 108 133
alexh 04:45 04:01 84 103
LouWeed LouWeed 04:49 04:22 90 111
d.middleton 04:49 03:35 74 91
March 04:49 04:12 87 107
wwalker50 04:51 05:01 103 127
andy 04:53 04:00 81 100
neilr neilr 04:55 05:15 106 130
Bluejacket 05:01 02:23 47 58
scrabbler 05:05 04:12 82 101
pitcaithlie Pitcaithlie 05:05 04:34 89 109
Liari 05:07 03:44 72 88
chriswords 05:07 04:24 85 104
Tibthorpe 05:08 04:48 93 114
Zander 05:14 04:10 79 97
McBeakLives 05:14 03:32 67 82
Squallaby 05:15 05:15 100 123
ChuckB 05:16 04:31 85 104
cdb_100 05:19 03:20 62 76
7dPenguin 7dPenguin 05:19 04:47 89 109
AndyKnott321 05:21 05:59 111 137
nina s 05:22 05:15 97 119
MrChumley MrChumley 05:35 06:23 114 140
KarenR 05:36 06:43 119 146
Looch 05:41 05:12 91 112
GeorgeTz 05:42 06:18 110 135
denislaw 05:43 03:26 60 74
Encota 05:43 04:21 76 93
Finzi 05:44 04:42 81 100
JayEm 05:45 05:56 103 127
cmcnsmith 05:50 05:33 95 117
Streaky Bacon 05:51 06:24 109 134
RobR RobR 05:51 05:03 86 106
Freemers 05:55 03:42 62 76
mcrossib1 05:58 04:18 72 88
Carol 05:58 05:28 91 112
mw7000 06:01 04:05 67 82
Shabbo 06:01 04:53 81 100
Adelaider 06:06 06:07 100 123
Curarist 06:14 05:16 84 103
chriswestontour 06:14 07:00 112 138
julian_w 06:15 05:53 94 116
SBQuick 06:17 05:49 92 113
Adrian Cobb 06:17 05:32 88 108
Tudds 06:17 06:36 105 129
Riche Riche 06:18 04:16 67 82
Mike C 06:20 06:32 103 127
Dzhigit 06:21 04:50 76 93
PGooden 06:25 06:51 106 130
hopkinb hopkinb 06:26 04:44 73 90
jimwetzler 06:27 07:33 117 144
Kevin Gregg Kevin Gregg 06:31 06:28 99 122
SlumdogEngineer 06:38 05:44 86 106
jon 06:38 05:10 77 95
ilan 06:39 07:48 117 144
GMcD 06:39 05:16 79 97
Vannyx 06:42 05:23 80 98
Onelug 06:45 03:47 56 69
James P 06:48 05:33 81 100
paul.whitehouse69 06:49 04:57 72 88
uvofiz 06:49 05:11 76 93
Puzzleplease 06:52 06:39 96 118
Nangle 06:55 05:29 79 97
valerian1967 07:00 05:18 75 92
hazyfantazee 07:08 06:02 84 103
Gussie 07:13 06:52 95 117
Corymbia Corymbia 07:20 05:51 79 97
ChrisBrea 07:23 06:11 83 102
janesa 07:27 06:58 93 114
1234 07:28 06:14 83 102
Mike Harper Mike Harper 07:31 06:03 80 98
DamienKnapma 07:36 05:20 70 86
mjsaunders9 07:41 06:45 87 107
drginacoco 07:48 01:41 21 25
Desdeeloeste Desdeeloeste 07:48 07:59 102 125
John Arnold 08:06 10:01 123 151
ulaca ulaca 08:06 07:15 89 109
plett11 Plett11 08:06 07:54 97 119
timbo 08:08 08:49 108 133
johndun John Dunleavy 08:10 05:46 70 86
endafk 08:10 04:40 57 70
Aldus 08:12 05:28 66 81
Sheen 08:12 05:58 72 88
TomHerbert 08:13 07:04 86 106
Zabadak3 Zabadak 08:15 07:27 90 111
dec 08:25 06:43 79 97
john.brassey 08:26 07:42 91 112
kath 08:40 07:54 91 112
goblin 08:40 07:14 83 102
luxtonj61 08:41 07:58 91 112
raincloud 08:42 06:14 71 87
Jeeves 08:43 07:53 90 111
vinyl12345 vinyl1 08:45 04:55 56 69
gsriordan52 08:46 07:58 90 111
dr.shred 08:51 05:12 58 71
Deezzaa Deezzaa 08:53 08:05 90 111
steve.laverock 08:55 06:55 77 95
smalley552 09:04 05:07 56 69
GMB 09:05 08:25 92 113
Rosey6 09:17 08:14 88 108
Poff 09:20 06:26 68 83
piltdown man 09:26 08:28 89 109
barracuda barracuda 09:26 08:47 93 114
CoxBurglar 09:46 12:06 123 151
maisiemae 09:55 08:29 85 104
Pendrov 09:58 07:20 73 90
hemantyd 09:59 08:27 84 103
starstruck starstruck_au 10:10 06:38 65 80
Birdingbob 10:13 08:03 78 96
annikins 10:15 07:33 73 90
TonyN6 10:17 08:13 79 97
Word Psmith 10:43 09:21 87 107
Nuck_the_king 10:47 06:43 62 76
horners1974 Jonathan Hornby 11:09 07:35 68 83
BertieVII 11:22 08:22 73 90
simjt simjt 11:22 07:43 67 82
E Bradford 11:29 11:25 99 122
jarenstein 11:39 08:43 74 91
crucihacker 11:40 06:52 58 71
alistair.boere 12:10 09:34 78 96
symbenall2 12:10 10:20 84 103
phatman 12:23 11:51 95 117
martinr486 12:28 12:27 99 122
intentional rounding 12:28 05:13 41 50
tyrotim tyrotim 12:30 09:18 74 91
WordPlodder BletchleyReject 12:33 07:51 62 76
chabuduo chabuduo 12:42 07:39 60 74
ifincham2 12:49 15:14 118 145
flashman flashman 12:59 08:23 64 79
Sonofjim 13:06 09:31 72 88
kapietro kapietro 13:32 12:03 89 109
Corbo 13:51 10:19 74 91
Merlin_55 Merlin 14:13 11:49 83 102
Mendes Mendesest 15:07 09:45 64 79
RPE10538 RPE10538 15:18 11:27 74 91
The Real Steve Snackman 15:23 09:22 60 74
Holly O 15:28 15:00 96 118
Xebeq 16:18 08:13 50 61
Steve Wood 16:29 17:31 106 130
thechan 16:45 10:32 62 76
tomtom2 17:35 09:38 54 66
david.14587 18:26 10:12 55 67
140 Mandak 262 Jamuna 18:43 14:58 79 97
TonyK 18:49 14:37 77 95
New Driver 18:58 09:29 50 61
paulmcl 20:20 37:05 182 224
ian.shepherd 21:37 14:32 67 82
maryht 22:15 15:06 67 82
Tired_commuter Tired_commuter 22:59 19:21 84 103
pamelalewis51 24:28 26:42 109 134
darrell.j.baker 24:57 08:19 33 40
shankar 25:57 23:59 92 113
IanV IanV 33:39 27:00 80 98
deebeeem 42:16 14:35 34 41

A guide to the solver status

Legend
 Reference solver used for SNITCH
 Other Reference solver
 Tracked solver
 Blog solver

Blog Solvers

Blog Solvers are those who have allowed their times to be taken from the Times for the Times blog.

Notes for Blog Solvers:

  • the most reliable format for reporting times is with format "mm:ss" or as "x minutes" in the title or at the start of the entry
  • only the first main comment for each blogger is used; responses to other comments or a second comment is ignored
  • to report errors, include "n errors" just after the time
  • If you just have a time it is assumed you have no errors unless you mention DNF or pink squares or giving up, etc, in the text
  • Examples of good time notifications are "38:30, 0 errors" and "39 minutes, 0 errors" in the comment title or as the first part of your comment

Notes

The definition of Reference and Tracked solvers is described on the Neutrinos page.

The results for Reference solvers are normally used to calcuate the SNITCH. When this happens they are shown in the list with a solid blue line to the left. In the previous SNITCH results listing for each crossword, these were the only entries shown.

The most common causes for Reference solver results not to be used are: (a) that they did not meet the criteria this month to be used as a reference (e.g. they may not have completed enough puzzles on each day of the week) or (b) they have been pushed out of the top 100 on the leader board. In these cases, the results are now shown, but their data is not used for the SNITCH calculation.

Where there is data for Tracked solvers, I show them also in this table. The solving data is not always available, as the Crossword Club site only shows the top 100 solvers to everyone. Logged-in users get their own leaderboard position and those around them, but this is not available to everyone. So the SNITCH site only gets data for those who have made the top 100 in the leaderboard at some point during the day.

As a result there are a few geographically advantaged solvers; those of us who solve early in the day (e.g. we in the Antipodes, those in Asia and those staying up late in North America) are more likely to hit the leaderboard even with slower times. Solvers who are just as capable but solve later in the UK day might not make the top 100 and I have no way to capture their results.

You may wonder why there are Tracked solvers (in red) with low average solving times, mixed in with the Reference solvers (in blue). These are usually those that, while they don't seem to be Neutrinos, are not well aligned to the SNITCH. So I don't use them as Reference solvers in the SNITCH calculation, but still show their overall results.

You might also notice that there's some inconsistency at the tail end of the Reference solver list. My cutoff point is an average solving time of 45 minutes. But if someone around this mark is chosen as a Reference solver, their next month's results might end up being over 45 minutes and they will still be used. Alternatively, a Tracked solver might creep in under 45 minutes on the next calculation, but didn't make the cut for the prior Reference list. It's on the to-do list to see if I can make this a bit more predictable.

Stored SNITCH Values

Here are the SNITCH values (stored on the day) from the crossword.

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