Quick SNITCH

A quantitative guide to the degree of difficulty of the Times Quick Cryptic Crossword

Times Quick Cryptic Crossword 2585

Date 30 January 2024
Number 2585
Setter Jalna
Day of week Tuesday
NITCH 96
Count of ref solvers 75
Ref solvers excluded with errors 4
Link to crossword View Crossword*
Times for the Times Link 2585

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Detailed solving results

Reference, Tracked and Blog solvers with error-free solutions to this puzzle are shown below.

We also show the solver's Personal NITCH, which is their result on this puzzle compared to their average time, and the Wavelength Index of Times Cryptic Hardness, the WITCH, which is the Personal NITCH compared to the SNITCH.

Name TfTT Name Average time This time Personal NITCH WITCH
mohn 02:11 01:38 74 77
Paul Gilbert 02:30 02:03 82 85
mistigris 02:41 02:23 88 91
cmjhutton 02:43 02:38 96 100
hilarym 02:47 02:25 86 89
verlaine 02:49 03:18 117 121
aphis99 aphis99 02:50 02:36 91 94
Flimmy flammy 03:05 04:00 129 134
markdobell 03:38 03:02 83 86
Heyesey 03:38 03:26 94 97
richard 03:41 03:50 104 108
Topical Tim Topical Tim 03:46 04:43 125 130
SimonAnthony 03:52 03:23 87 90
glheard 03:59 05:37 141 146
lickert 04:09 03:25 82 85
Kinghedger 04:09 04:15 102 106
Strober 04:19 03:58 91 94
xyster 04:24 04:07 93 96
Roscoe 04:28 05:14 117 121
philjordan1147 BUSMAN 04:30 04:26 98 102
Umpire 04:30 04:59 110 114
tiggis 04:31 04:25 97 101
Tom Stubbs Tom Stubbs 04:32 05:21 118 122
MikeOsborne 04:32 04:53 107 111
chriss 04:35 06:16 136 141
alexh 04:37 04:06 88 91
Golvellius 04:38 03:51 83 86
denislaw 04:38 03:52 83 86
tilbee 04:40 04:35 98 102
AlanS 04:42 04:15 90 93
Liari 04:43 04:06 86 89
canismiser 04:45 05:28 115 119
MK76 04:46 03:12 67 69
lucyg43484 04:48 06:30 135 140
andy 04:52 04:47 98 102
Honggui 04:55 04:48 97 101
Ed freshpot 04:55 04:00 81 84
March 04:57 04:03 81 84
Johninterred 04:57 04:57 100 104
pitcaithlie Pitcaithlie 04:59 05:52 117 121
LouWeed LouWeed 05:01 04:00 79 82
Eddddddd 05:10 04:49 93 96
7dPenguin 7dPenguin 05:15 04:47 91 94
Zander 05:17 05:06 96 100
ChuckB 05:21 04:42 87 90
Squallaby 05:25 05:22 99 103
daulbs 05:25 03:43 68 70
fshephe 05:25 05:28 100 104
MossDef 05:28 06:11 113 117
neilr neilr 05:36 04:50 86 89
KET 05:38 05:26 96 100
Finzi 05:43 05:40 99 103
esmeralda 05:47 06:32 112 116
Rabbitoh galspray 05:48 06:59 120 125
Looch 05:50 05:13 89 92
Dzhigit 05:55 05:42 96 100
mw7000 05:56 05:20 89 92
Encota 05:58 05:21 89 92
McBeak McBeak 06:02 04:09 68 70
howardwilde1 06:03 05:51 96 100
Crossiant 06:03 05:44 94 97
LuckOfLucien 06:04 04:49 79 82
Shabbo 06:04 06:10 101 105
Carol 06:04 06:21 104 108
GMcD 06:13 06:53 110 114
Tudds 06:17 07:35 120 125
jimwetzler 06:17 05:28 87 90
mcrossib1 06:23 05:21 83 86
Mike C 06:24 05:20 83 86
Curarist 06:26 05:58 92 95
Kevin Gregg Kevin Gregg 06:28 05:48 89 92
Michael Dove 06:28 07:04 109 113
hopkinb hopkinb 06:32 11:49 180 187
ilan 06:34 06:58 106 110
JMbrow29 06:37 06:24 96 100
PGooden 06:38 06:50 103 107
paul.whitehouse69 06:39 06:51 103 107
Jeremy Weissmann plusjeremy 06:39 08:34 128 133
Julian Forbes 06:41 05:08 76 79
robinh 06:45 06:50 101 105
julian_w 06:52 07:10 104 108
jon 06:52 07:13 105 109
Adrian Cobb 06:52 05:52 85 88
James P 06:55 07:22 106 110
KenD51 06:57 06:05 87 90
Riche Riche 07:06 07:53 111 115
DianeRS 07:14 07:42 106 110
Dvynys Dvynys 07:17 06:47 93 96
Mike Harper Mike Harper 07:22 05:20 72 75
Puzzleplease 07:23 06:01 81 84
Andrew Whiffin 07:32 07:07 94 97
earlylight 07:33 07:59 105 109
1234 07:35 12:18 162 168
banishspam 07:46 05:22 69 71
gsriordan52 07:56 06:57 87 90
ChrisBrea 07:58 07:55 99 103
John Arnold 07:58 10:44 134 139
jaraab 08:04 07:26 92 95
TomHerbert 08:09 08:00 98 102
crosswordian 08:12 08:40 105 109
dec 08:14 07:17 88 91
CrystalPip 08:16 08:03 97 101
nigel 08:17 10:36 127 132
JanieP 08:19 08:23 100 104
DamienKnapma 08:19 15:46 189 196
Desdeeloeste Desdeeloeste 08:21 07:47 93 96
Mike Mansbridge 08:22 07:13 86 89
plett11 Plett11 08:25 08:21 99 103
m5harp 08:29 08:25 99 103
Templar Redux Templar 08:29 12:28 146 152
nigelmzzz 08:30 08:34 100 104
timbo 08:31 09:32 111 115
hazyfantazee 08:32 07:27 87 90
johndun John Dunleavy 08:33 09:29 110 114
hookyt 08:35 08:34 99 103
richardCV22 08:36 10:42 124 129
goblin 08:38 08:22 96 100
Deezzaa Deezzaa 08:40 05:58 68 70
Sheen 08:44 09:52 112 116
TonyN6 08:46 06:42 76 79
barracuda barracuda 08:47 08:41 98 102
OldSolver 08:49 09:48 111 115
Dr_Bob 08:49 07:12 81 84
Yatton50 08:51 10:21 116 120
goldenpie 08:53 07:41 86 89
vefatica vefatica 08:56 09:42 108 112
kath 08:57 10:54 121 126
john.brassey 09:03 09:54 109 113
Mkgnao Mkgnao 09:10 09:17 101 105
vinyl12345 vinyl1 09:15 06:30 70 72
Nigel1953 09:16 08:01 86 89
Zabadak3 Zabadak 09:18 09:52 106 110
luxtonj61 09:24 11:13 119 123
Doyler 09:27 08:47 92 95
joe.mcgrane 09:38 08:55 92 95
CoxBurglar 09:45 09:00 92 95
wwicksteed 09:46 07:16 74 77
smalley552 09:53 12:40 128 133
hemantyd 09:57 08:52 89 92
BertieVII 10:07 18:58 187 194
Jeeves 10:08 08:13 81 84
iholloway 10:10 11:57 117 121
Destime 10:12 10:49 106 110
Poff 10:16 14:45 143 148
Pendrov 10:30 19:14 183 190
suethepotterer 11:13 10:59 97 101
annikins 11:18 07:35 67 69
hipponym 11:26 08:00 69 71
paul.verney 11:28 09:47 85 88
youngbaz 11:57 13:40 114 118
simjt simjt 12:00 13:16 110 114
tyrotim tyrotim 12:10 13:59 114 118
flashman flashman 12:18 12:14 99 103
ifincham2 12:19 13:40 110 114
alistair.boere 12:33 18:35 148 154
chabuduo chabuduo 13:20 11:16 84 87
phmfantom 13:25 09:11 68 70
albrecht1959 13:29 12:07 89 92
ezoredfox 13:33 16:29 121 126
phcbarnes 14:04 16:48 119 123
Corbo 14:13 19:00 133 138
Merlin_55 Merlin 14:52 19:06 128 133
Mozbo 15:00 14:11 94 97
rlowin2 15:52 14:01 88 91
Doofenschmirtz Doofenschmirtz 16:01 12:36 78 81
Holly O 16:27 19:28 118 122
Narayanan 17:12 15:39 90 93
ginnythomson 17:22 27:50 160 166
Masha 17:34 16:27 93 96
intentional rounding 19:10 17:33 91 94
maryht 19:17 13:35 70 72
TonyK 19:23 25:41 132 137
pfalloon 21:15 09:43 45 46
The Real Steve Snackman 21:57 22:45 103 107
Ajay 26:43 15:13 56 58
shankar 26:51 22:18 83 86
prognosticat 32:08 22:17 69 71
mcfarl 40:48 38:50 95 98
deebeeem 42:59 15:18 35 36

A guide to the solver status

Legend
 Reference solver used for SNITCH
 Other Reference solver
 Tracked solver
 Blog solver

Blog Solvers

Blog Solvers are those who have allowed their times to be taken from the Times for the Times blog.

Notes for Blog Solvers:

  • the most reliable format for reporting times is with format "mm:ss" or as "x minutes" in the title or at the start of the entry
  • only the first main comment for each blogger is used; responses to other comments or a second comment is ignored
  • to report errors, include "n errors" just after the time
  • If you just have a time it is assumed you have no errors unless you mention DNF or pink squares or giving up, etc, in the text
  • Examples of good time notifications are "38:30, 0 errors" and "39 minutes, 0 errors" in the comment title or as the first part of your comment

Notes

The definition of Reference and Tracked solvers is described on the Neutrinos page.

The results for Reference solvers are normally used to calcuate the SNITCH. When this happens they are shown in the list with a solid blue line to the left. In the previous SNITCH results listing for each crossword, these were the only entries shown.

The most common causes for Reference solver results not to be used are: (a) that they did not meet the criteria this month to be used as a reference (e.g. they may not have completed enough puzzles on each day of the week) or (b) they have been pushed out of the top 100 on the leader board. In these cases, the results are now shown, but their data is not used for the SNITCH calculation.

Where there is data for Tracked solvers, I show them also in this table. The solving data is not always available, as the Crossword Club site only shows the top 100 solvers to everyone. Logged-in users get their own leaderboard position and those around them, but this is not available to everyone. So the SNITCH site only gets data for those who have made the top 100 in the leaderboard at some point during the day.

As a result there are a few geographically advantaged solvers; those of us who solve early in the day (e.g. we in the Antipodes, those in Asia and those staying up late in North America) are more likely to hit the leaderboard even with slower times. Solvers who are just as capable but solve later in the UK day might not make the top 100 and I have no way to capture their results.

You may wonder why there are Tracked solvers (in red) with low average solving times, mixed in with the Reference solvers (in blue). These are usually those that, while they don't seem to be Neutrinos, are not well aligned to the SNITCH. So I don't use them as Reference solvers in the SNITCH calculation, but still show their overall results.

You might also notice that there's some inconsistency at the tail end of the Reference solver list. My cutoff point is an average solving time of 45 minutes. But if someone around this mark is chosen as a Reference solver, their next month's results might end up being over 45 minutes and they will still be used. Alternatively, a Tracked solver might creep in under 45 minutes on the next calculation, but didn't make the cut for the prior Reference list. It's on the to-do list to see if I can make this a bit more predictable.

Stored SNITCH Values

Here are the SNITCH values (stored on the day) from the crossword.

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