Quick SNITCH

A quantitative guide to the degree of difficulty of the Times Quick Cryptic Crossword

Times Quick Cryptic Crossword 2800

Date 07 October 2024
Number 2800
Setter Trelawney
Day of week Monday
NITCH 65
Count of ref solvers 72
Ref solvers excluded with errors 8
Link to crossword View Crossword*
Times for the Times Link 2800

* Requires access to the Times Crossword Club

Detailed solving results

Reference, Tracked and Blog solvers with error-free solutions to this puzzle are shown below.

We also show the solver's Personal NITCH, which is their result on this puzzle compared to their average time, and the Wavelength Index of Times Cryptic Hardness, the WITCH, which is the Personal NITCH compared to the SNITCH.

Name TfTT Name Average time This time Personal NITCH WITCH
mohn 02:01 01:47 88 135
Paul Gilbert 02:28 02:07 85 130
Jason 02:29 02:20 93 143
cmjhutton 02:29 01:41 67 103
verlaine 02:36 01:34 60 92
aphis99 aphis99 02:44 01:58 71 109
hilarym 02:45 02:17 83 127
Sheapey Sheapey 03:19 02:19 69 106
Flimmy flammy 03:19 03:28 104 160
richard 03:28 03:03 87 133
markdobell 03:38 02:25 66 101
michaelbell53 03:47 03:25 90 138
Topical Tim Topical Tim 03:54 03:01 77 118
Kinghedger 03:57 02:40 67 103
Umpire 03:59 02:59 74 113
SimonAnthony 04:04 02:19 56 86
chindit 04:07 03:42 89 136
glheard 04:11 03:16 78 120
MikeOsborne 04:12 02:42 64 98
Roscoe 04:14 03:33 83 127
lickert 04:18 02:45 63 96
Tom Stubbs Tom Stubbs 04:23 03:26 78 120
canismiser 04:26 02:50 63 96
lucyg43484 04:33 03:24 74 113
AlanS 04:34 03:03 66 101
Morphosis 04:34 03:11 69 106
John Walsh 04:37 03:54 84 129
MK76 04:39 03:44 80 123
andrewlake 04:43 02:36 55 84
LouWeed LouWeed 04:45 02:53 60 92
March 04:46 02:51 59 90
alexh 04:48 02:29 51 78
neilr neilr 04:54 04:01 81 124
CentralLine CentralLine 04:54 04:38 94 144
andy 04:56 03:24 68 104
Paul Bacon 04:58 04:15 85 130
pitcaithlie Pitcaithlie 05:01 03:53 77 118
chriswords 05:03 03:52 76 116
scrabbler 05:03 03:39 72 110
Johninterred 05:05 03:35 70 107
Ed freshpot 05:07 03:19 64 98
Tibthorpe 05:09 04:26 86 132
Zander 05:09 03:01 58 89
Squallaby 05:14 03:49 72 110
fshephe 05:15 03:55 74 113
Rabbitoh galspray 05:15 04:12 80 123
cdb_100 05:16 03:09 59 90
7dPenguin 7dPenguin 05:16 03:31 66 101
Bluejacket 05:24 02:24 44 67
KarenR 05:27 02:55 53 81
esmeralda 05:31 05:00 90 138
nina s 05:31 02:59 54 83
Penfold_61 05:32 03:38 65 100
Encota 05:41 03:19 58 89
footballblue 05:43 04:13 73 112
Looch 05:43 03:36 62 95
Finzi 05:44 03:36 62 95
rrricharrrd 05:53 03:21 56 86
cmcnsmith 05:56 04:13 71 109
mcrossib1 05:57 03:03 51 78
Shabbo 05:57 04:19 72 110
Carol 05:59 03:58 66 101
mw7000 05:59 02:34 42 64
Freemers 06:00 03:27 57 87
RobR RobR 06:07 03:51 62 95
chriswestontour 06:15 05:11 82 126
Dzhigit 06:17 03:45 59 90
Tudds 06:17 03:30 55 84
Mike C 06:20 04:03 63 96
robinh 06:20 05:51 92 141
hopkinb hopkinb 06:22 03:20 52 80
PGooden 06:26 04:04 63 96
GMcD 06:34 04:23 66 101
jimwetzler 06:34 04:11 63 96
Onelug 06:37 04:33 68 104
Kevin Gregg Kevin Gregg 06:38 04:22 65 100
jon 06:39 04:39 69 106
paul.whitehouse69 06:45 04:37 68 104
James P 06:45 05:12 77 118
uvofiz 06:46 04:23 64 98
Puzzleplease 06:51 04:00 58 89
Pxspxs 06:53 04:16 61 93
DianeRS 06:55 04:17 61 93
Nangle 06:57 03:57 56 86
valerian1967 07:01 04:35 65 100
Obrador 07:11 05:27 75 115
nigel 07:13 04:27 61 93
ChrisBrea 07:19 05:23 73 112
Corymbia Corymbia 07:21 04:48 65 100
Kalakuta72 07:22 04:09 56 86
hazyfantazee 07:27 04:46 63 96
andrewfeist96 07:28 03:12 42 64
janesa 07:32 05:33 73 112
DamienKnapma 07:36 05:23 70 107
CrystalPip 07:37 04:21 57 87
kitty.banks 07:41 04:46 62 95
Mike Harper Mike Harper 07:45 04:25 56 86
earlylight 07:50 03:09 40 61
wwicksteed 07:51 05:18 67 103
John Arnold 07:58 04:46 59 90
plett11 Plett11 08:00 04:57 61 93
Dr_Bob 08:04 04:50 59 90
johndun John Dunleavy 08:07 04:52 59 90
endafk 08:08 04:30 55 84
ulaca ulaca 08:09 04:32 55 84
Templar Redux Templar 08:10 06:40 81 124
TomHerbert 08:11 04:12 51 78
Sheen 08:12 05:17 64 98
richardCV22 08:20 06:25 77 118
gsriordan52 08:25 06:58 82 126
Deezzaa Deezzaa 08:30 04:39 54 83
smalley552 08:34 04:58 57 87
raincloud 08:36 03:59 46 70
kath 08:36 07:07 82 126
vefatica vefatica 08:40 05:49 67 103
Doyler 08:42 03:57 45 69
goblin 08:43 06:50 78 120
hipponym 08:44 03:22 38 58
dr.shred 08:45 02:53 32 49
vinyl12345 vinyl1 08:46 06:10 70 107
Jeeves 08:46 05:43 65 100
Rowleyrag 08:53 05:59 67 103
OldSolver 08:53 05:45 64 98
JeffHobbs 08:55 04:12 47 72
Mkgnao Mkgnao 08:57 07:03 78 120
piltdown man 09:24 05:27 57 87
Poff 09:28 05:19 56 86
maisiemae 09:28 06:31 68 104
Cryptique 09:36 04:30 46 70
jarenstein 10:02 04:39 46 70
Birdingbob 10:06 05:36 55 84
TonyN6 10:10 07:26 73 112
ofarrell 10:14 05:25 52 80
iholloway 10:16 04:40 45 69
starstruck starstruck_au 10:26 07:21 70 107
home.bright 10:37 05:15 49 75
russellcannon 10:47 08:04 74 113
Nuck_the_king 10:47 04:11 38 58
alastair52 10:51 04:38 42 64
symbenall2 10:54 05:42 52 80
BertieVII 11:00 08:02 73 112
simjt simjt 11:29 05:06 44 67
crucihacker 11:33 07:18 63 96
Dr. Memory 11:40 09:52 84 129
WordPlodder BletchleyReject 11:59 09:44 81 124
paul.verney 12:19 07:00 56 86
tyrotim tyrotim 12:29 06:14 49 75
alistair.boere 12:31 06:21 50 76
ifincham2 12:42 07:28 58 89
phatman 12:44 04:26 34 52
chabuduo chabuduo 13:01 04:53 37 56
martinr486 13:01 08:04 61 93
intentional rounding 13:02 05:09 39 60
Sonofjim 13:10 06:04 46 70
rlowin2 13:12 07:05 53 81
flashman flashman 13:18 05:52 44 67
kapietro kapietro 13:34 09:15 68 104
Corbo 13:48 09:05 65 100
Merlin_55 Merlin 14:03 10:16 73 112
mich_punk 14:26 06:49 47 72
Doofenschmirtz Doofenschmirtz 14:30 09:00 62 95
Mendes Mendesest 15:14 07:50 51 78
kfb20 15:26 07:49 50 76
Xebeq 15:33 10:12 65 100
Jax74 15:47 06:47 42 64
Holly O 16:04 07:28 46 70
The Real Steve Snackman 16:10 05:46 35 53
Steve Wood 16:20 08:12 50 76
keithandginnybirrell 16:58 11:41 68 104
thechan 17:16 07:09 41 63
tomtom2 17:47 09:16 52 80
TonyK 18:55 09:25 49 75
david.14587 19:11 05:46 30 46
pfalloon 19:22 06:00 30 46
dan_tman 19:57 06:17 31 47
Geldart 21:30 06:04 28 43
ian.shepherd 22:24 11:25 50 76
maryht 22:29 11:32 51 78
danielbluebisson 22:42 03:55 17 26
dominic.c-b 22:45 11:25 50 76
paulmcl 23:17 06:07 26 40
SilleG 23:28 13:54 59 90
pamelalewis51 25:35 10:45 42 64
shankar 27:39 06:13 22 33
lilias.allan 39:53 20:02 50 76
deebeeem 49:07 06:25 13 20

A guide to the solver status

Legend
 Reference solver used for SNITCH
 Other Reference solver
 Tracked solver
 Blog solver

Blog Solvers

Blog Solvers are those who have allowed their times to be taken from the Times for the Times blog.

Notes for Blog Solvers:

  • the most reliable format for reporting times is with format "mm:ss" or as "x minutes" in the title or at the start of the entry
  • only the first main comment for each blogger is used; responses to other comments or a second comment is ignored
  • to report errors, include "n errors" just after the time
  • If you just have a time it is assumed you have no errors unless you mention DNF or pink squares or giving up, etc, in the text
  • Examples of good time notifications are "38:30, 0 errors" and "39 minutes, 0 errors" in the comment title or as the first part of your comment

Notes

The definition of Reference and Tracked solvers is described on the Neutrinos page.

The results for Reference solvers are normally used to calcuate the SNITCH. When this happens they are shown in the list with a solid blue line to the left. In the previous SNITCH results listing for each crossword, these were the only entries shown.

The most common causes for Reference solver results not to be used are: (a) that they did not meet the criteria this month to be used as a reference (e.g. they may not have completed enough puzzles on each day of the week) or (b) they have been pushed out of the top 100 on the leader board. In these cases, the results are now shown, but their data is not used for the SNITCH calculation.

Where there is data for Tracked solvers, I show them also in this table. The solving data is not always available, as the Crossword Club site only shows the top 100 solvers to everyone. Logged-in users get their own leaderboard position and those around them, but this is not available to everyone. So the SNITCH site only gets data for those who have made the top 100 in the leaderboard at some point during the day.

As a result there are a few geographically advantaged solvers; those of us who solve early in the day (e.g. we in the Antipodes, those in Asia and those staying up late in North America) are more likely to hit the leaderboard even with slower times. Solvers who are just as capable but solve later in the UK day might not make the top 100 and I have no way to capture their results.

You may wonder why there are Tracked solvers (in red) with low average solving times, mixed in with the Reference solvers (in blue). These are usually those that, while they don't seem to be Neutrinos, are not well aligned to the SNITCH. So I don't use them as Reference solvers in the SNITCH calculation, but still show their overall results.

You might also notice that there's some inconsistency at the tail end of the Reference solver list. My cutoff point is an average solving time of 45 minutes. But if someone around this mark is chosen as a Reference solver, their next month's results might end up being over 45 minutes and they will still be used. Alternatively, a Tracked solver might creep in under 45 minutes on the next calculation, but didn't make the cut for the prior Reference list. It's on the to-do list to see if I can make this a bit more predictable.

Stored SNITCH Values

Here are the SNITCH values (stored on the day) from the crossword.

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