Quick SNITCH

A quantitative guide to the degree of difficulty of the Times Quick Cryptic Crossword

Times Quick Cryptic Crossword 2858

Date 13 December 2024
Number 2858
Setter Jalna
Day of week Friday
NITCH 95
Count of ref solvers 75
Ref solvers excluded with errors 6
Link to crossword View Crossword*
Times for the Times Link 2858

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Detailed solving results

Reference, Tracked and Blog solvers with error-free solutions to this puzzle are shown below.

We also show the solver's Personal NITCH, which is their result on this puzzle compared to their average time, and the Wavelength Index of Times Cryptic Hardness, the WITCH, which is the Personal NITCH compared to the SNITCH.

Name TfTT Name Average time This time Personal NITCH WITCH
mohn 02:01 01:49 90 94
Paul Gilbert 02:27 02:21 95 100
verlaine 02:34 01:57 75 78
hilarym 02:46 02:52 103 108
aphis99 aphis99 02:47 02:56 105 110
Flimmy flammy 03:21 02:44 81 85
markdobell 03:39 03:25 93 97
Topical Tim Topical Tim 03:54 03:23 86 90
Ciolf 03:55 03:46 96 101
Kinghedger 03:59 03:39 91 95
Umpire 04:02 04:24 109 114
SimonAnthony 04:07 02:31 61 64
chindit 04:10 04:14 101 106
lickert 04:22 03:39 83 87
Tom Stubbs Tom Stubbs 04:25 04:12 95 100
tilbee 04:27 04:46 107 112
philjordan1147 BUSMAN 04:30 04:42 104 109
AlanS 04:31 04:51 107 112
tiggis 04:37 05:44 124 130
MK76 04:38 06:25 138 145
andrewlake 04:42 05:19 113 118
alexh 04:45 04:41 98 103
LouWeed LouWeed 04:49 03:52 80 84
March 04:49 06:05 126 132
andy 04:53 06:17 128 134
neilr neilr 04:55 06:35 133 140
Bluejacket 05:01 03:51 76 80
Paul Bacon 05:02 04:54 97 102
pitcaithlie Pitcaithlie 05:05 04:55 96 101
scrabbler 05:05 03:57 77 81
Liari 05:07 05:29 107 112
Tibthorpe 05:08 03:47 73 76
Zander 05:14 04:32 86 90
McBeakLives 05:14 04:31 86 90
Squallaby 05:15 04:45 90 94
Rabbitoh galspray 05:16 05:10 98 103
ChuckB 05:16 05:51 111 116
7dPenguin 7dPenguin 05:19 05:40 106 111
cdb_100 05:19 05:54 110 115
AndyKnott321 05:21 06:00 112 117
nina s 05:22 03:39 68 71
esmeralda 05:25 05:19 98 103
Penfold_61 05:35 05:44 102 107
rrricharrrd 05:35 05:07 91 95
KarenR 05:36 04:17 76 80
Looch 05:41 05:42 100 105
GeorgeTz 05:42 05:45 100 105
Encota 05:43 07:27 130 136
Finzi 05:44 06:11 107 112
JayEm 05:45 04:17 74 77
Streaky Bacon 05:51 06:58 119 125
Freemers 05:55 07:06 120 126
Carol 05:58 06:49 114 120
mw7000 06:01 04:16 70 73
KET 06:04 06:13 102 107
Adelaider 06:06 05:27 89 93
Paul Hammond Paul Hammond 06:11 06:25 103 108
Jeremy Weissmann plusjeremy 06:12 07:55 127 133
Curarist 06:14 05:45 92 96
julian_w 06:15 06:27 103 108
Tudds 06:17 06:34 104 109
Adrian Cobb 06:17 08:04 128 134
Riche Riche 06:18 06:45 107 112
DunPangolin 06:19 05:15 83 87
Mike C 06:20 08:04 127 133
Dzhigit 06:21 08:03 126 132
robinh 06:28 09:06 140 147
Kevin Gregg Kevin Gregg 06:31 08:24 128 134
jon 06:38 07:07 107 112
GMcD 06:39 08:36 129 135
ilan 06:39 08:14 123 129
Vannyx 06:42 04:16 63 66
paul.whitehouse69 06:49 05:04 74 77
Puzzleplease 06:52 07:41 111 116
Nangle 06:55 06:06 88 92
Dvynys Dvynys 07:03 06:01 85 89
andrewfeist96 07:04 08:15 116 122
tds 07:04 09:31 134 141
nigel 07:05 08:46 123 129
Gussie 07:13 08:47 121 127
Corymbia Corymbia 07:20 07:15 98 103
martinede 07:23 07:19 99 104
janesa 07:27 07:23 99 104
kitty.banks 07:28 10:37 142 149
1234 07:28 06:27 86 90
Mike Harper Mike Harper 07:31 08:13 109 114
DamienKnapma 07:36 09:59 131 137
mjsaunders9 07:41 06:35 85 89
ulaca ulaca 08:06 09:46 120 126
John Arnold 08:06 10:27 129 135
plett11 Plett11 08:06 08:01 98 103
timbo 08:08 15:54 195 205
johndun John Dunleavy 08:10 07:29 91 95
endafk 08:10 10:29 128 134
Templar Redux Templar 08:13 11:44 142 149
Zabadak3 Zabadak 08:15 08:14 99 104
crosswordian 08:17 08:26 101 106
nigelmzzz 08:19 07:59 95 100
jaraab 08:20 07:00 84 88
mattindoha 08:23 08:31 101 106
OldSolver 08:30 07:15 85 89
richardCV22 08:31 10:02 117 123
m5harp 08:33 07:06 83 87
vefatica vefatica 08:40 09:10 105 110
goblin 08:40 08:06 93 97
kath 08:40 07:16 83 87
luxtonj61 08:41 05:48 66 69
raincloud 08:42 17:07 196 206
vinyl12345 vinyl1 08:45 08:41 99 104
gsriordan52 08:46 07:50 89 93
edwards.robert1 08:49 09:47 110 115
Deezzaa Deezzaa 08:53 06:42 75 78
Mkgnao Mkgnao 09:03 08:25 93 97
Doyler 09:03 10:14 113 118
smalley552 09:04 08:23 92 96
Rosey6 09:17 06:11 66 69
Poff 09:20 09:19 99 104
barracuda barracuda 09:26 07:53 83 87
Cryptique 09:39 08:57 92 96
Calculator001 09:41 09:38 99 104
RPY 10:09 11:44 115 121
starstruck starstruck_au 10:10 09:48 96 101
ofarrell 10:10 07:36 74 77
iholloway 10:12 11:55 116 122
Birdingbob 10:13 11:55 116 122
annikins 10:15 09:19 90 94
TonyN6 10:17 09:25 91 95
russellcannon 10:26 09:06 87 91
Troothful 10:47 08:46 81 85
Monkos 10:50 08:04 74 77
horners1974 Jonathan Hornby 11:09 07:59 71 74
BertieVII 11:22 10:26 91 95
simjt simjt 11:22 18:04 158 166
jarenstein 11:39 09:05 77 81
crucihacker 11:40 09:01 77 81
alistair.boere 12:10 11:43 96 101
intentional rounding 12:28 08:27 67 70
chabuduo chabuduo 12:42 12:53 101 106
ifincham2 12:49 12:34 98 103
flashman flashman 12:59 13:00 100 105
kapietro kapietro 13:32 18:06 133 140
Merlin_55 Merlin 14:13 13:30 94 98
Mendes Mendesest 15:07 12:06 80 84
RPE10538 RPE10538 15:18 12:12 79 83
The Real Steve Snackman 15:23 14:30 94 98
Dofray 15:35 19:26 124 130
Xebeq 16:18 16:55 103 108
Charpentier 16:30 15:33 94 98
thechan 16:45 12:07 72 75
phmfantom 17:28 10:39 60 63
tomtom2 17:35 20:50 118 124
david.14587 18:26 09:23 50 52
dan_tman 18:57 13:02 68 71
New Driver 18:58 14:03 74 77
winelover 19:35 20:25 104 109
pfalloon 20:37 13:52 67 70
Mark from Ipswich 21:12 14:03 66 69
maryht 22:15 22:54 102 107
dominic.c-b 23:33 27:10 115 121
youngbaz 24:29 11:20 46 48
shankar 25:57 30:29 117 123
Sotogrande1 27:38 26:20 95 100
IanV IanV 33:39 50:00 148 155
mcfarl 44:51 53:06 118 124

A guide to the solver status

Legend
 Reference solver used for SNITCH
 Other Reference solver
 Tracked solver
 Blog solver

Blog Solvers

Blog Solvers are those who have allowed their times to be taken from the Times for the Times blog.

Notes for Blog Solvers:

  • the most reliable format for reporting times is with format "mm:ss" or as "x minutes" in the title or at the start of the entry
  • only the first main comment for each blogger is used; responses to other comments or a second comment is ignored
  • to report errors, include "n errors" just after the time
  • If you just have a time it is assumed you have no errors unless you mention DNF or pink squares or giving up, etc, in the text
  • Examples of good time notifications are "38:30, 0 errors" and "39 minutes, 0 errors" in the comment title or as the first part of your comment

Notes

The definition of Reference and Tracked solvers is described on the Neutrinos page.

The results for Reference solvers are normally used to calcuate the SNITCH. When this happens they are shown in the list with a solid blue line to the left. In the previous SNITCH results listing for each crossword, these were the only entries shown.

The most common causes for Reference solver results not to be used are: (a) that they did not meet the criteria this month to be used as a reference (e.g. they may not have completed enough puzzles on each day of the week) or (b) they have been pushed out of the top 100 on the leader board. In these cases, the results are now shown, but their data is not used for the SNITCH calculation.

Where there is data for Tracked solvers, I show them also in this table. The solving data is not always available, as the Crossword Club site only shows the top 100 solvers to everyone. Logged-in users get their own leaderboard position and those around them, but this is not available to everyone. So the SNITCH site only gets data for those who have made the top 100 in the leaderboard at some point during the day.

As a result there are a few geographically advantaged solvers; those of us who solve early in the day (e.g. we in the Antipodes, those in Asia and those staying up late in North America) are more likely to hit the leaderboard even with slower times. Solvers who are just as capable but solve later in the UK day might not make the top 100 and I have no way to capture their results.

You may wonder why there are Tracked solvers (in red) with low average solving times, mixed in with the Reference solvers (in blue). These are usually those that, while they don't seem to be Neutrinos, are not well aligned to the SNITCH. So I don't use them as Reference solvers in the SNITCH calculation, but still show their overall results.

You might also notice that there's some inconsistency at the tail end of the Reference solver list. My cutoff point is an average solving time of 45 minutes. But if someone around this mark is chosen as a Reference solver, their next month's results might end up being over 45 minutes and they will still be used. Alternatively, a Tracked solver might creep in under 45 minutes on the next calculation, but didn't make the cut for the prior Reference list. It's on the to-do list to see if I can make this a bit more predictable.

Stored SNITCH Values

Here are the SNITCH values (stored on the day) from the crossword.

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