Quick SNITCH

A quantitative guide to the degree of difficulty of the Times Quick Cryptic Crossword

Times Quick Cryptic Crossword 2808

Date 16 October 2024
Number 2808
Setter Joker
Day of week Wednesday
NITCH 79
Count of ref solvers 74
Ref solvers excluded with errors 9
Link to crossword View Crossword*
Times for the Times Link 2808

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Detailed solving results

Reference, Tracked and Blog solvers with error-free solutions to this puzzle are shown below.

We also show the solver's Personal NITCH, which is their result on this puzzle compared to their average time, and the Wavelength Index of Times Cryptic Hardness, the WITCH, which is the Personal NITCH compared to the SNITCH.

Name TfTT Name Average time This time Personal NITCH WITCH
mohn 02:01 01:47 88 111
Paul Gilbert 02:28 02:18 93 117
cmjhutton 02:29 02:27 98 124
Jason 02:29 02:17 91 115
verlaine 02:36 01:55 73 92
mistigris 02:38 03:15 123 155
aphis99 aphis99 02:44 02:37 95 120
hilarym 02:45 02:02 73 92
Flimmy flammy 03:19 02:22 71 89
richard 03:28 03:11 91 115
markdobell 03:38 03:03 83 105
Topical Tim Topical Tim 03:54 03:37 92 116
SimonAnthony 04:04 03:18 81 102
chindit 04:07 03:48 92 116
Jim Willis 04:09 04:07 99 125
Golvellius 04:11 03:06 74 93
glheard 04:11 03:07 74 93
MikeOsborne 04:12 04:09 98 124
Roscoe 04:14 04:20 102 129
lickert 04:18 03:25 79 100
Tom Stubbs Tom Stubbs 04:23 03:34 81 102
tilbee 04:25 05:56 134 169
canismiser 04:26 06:01 135 170
philjordan1147 BUSMAN 04:30 03:44 82 103
lucyg43484 04:33 03:15 71 89
AlanS 04:34 03:56 86 108
Morphosis 04:34 03:49 83 105
MK76 04:39 03:38 78 98
andrewlake 04:43 03:29 73 92
daulbs 04:43 03:52 81 102
LouWeed LouWeed 04:45 04:40 98 124
d.middleton 04:46 04:52 102 129
March 04:46 03:40 76 96
alexh 04:48 03:25 71 89
neilr neilr 04:54 04:18 87 110
andy 04:56 03:30 70 88
Paul Bacon 04:58 05:14 105 132
LuckOfLucien 04:58 04:27 89 112
chriswords 05:03 04:12 83 105
scrabbler 05:03 03:46 74 93
Johninterred 05:05 04:08 81 102
Zander 05:09 05:28 106 134
Squallaby 05:14 04:00 76 96
Rabbitoh galspray 05:15 05:17 100 126
fshephe 05:15 04:51 92 116
7dPenguin 7dPenguin 05:16 03:37 68 86
McBeakLives 05:16 04:02 76 96
cdb_100 05:16 03:43 70 88
ChuckB 05:19 05:13 98 124
AndyKnott321 05:23 04:43 87 110
Bluejacket 05:24 02:48 51 64
KarenR 05:27 05:21 98 124
MrChumley MrChumley 05:28 06:19 115 145
nina s 05:31 02:08 38 48
esmeralda 05:31 04:20 78 98
MossDef 05:41 03:23 59 74
Encota 05:41 06:11 108 136
denislaw 05:42 05:08 90 113
Looch 05:43 04:32 79 100
Finzi 05:44 05:18 92 116
rrricharrrd 05:53 04:02 68 86
Shabbo 05:57 06:22 107 135
mcrossib1 05:57 04:43 79 100
mw7000 05:59 04:26 74 93
Carol 05:59 05:24 90 113
Freemers 06:00 04:38 77 97
DunPangolin 06:05 05:00 82 103
Curarist 06:11 05:27 88 111
Paul Hammond Paul Hammond 06:14 04:29 71 89
Adrian Cobb 06:16 05:26 86 108
julian_w 06:16 05:26 86 108
Tudds 06:17 05:08 81 102
robinh 06:20 06:07 96 121
hopkinb hopkinb 06:22 05:41 89 112
PGooden 06:26 05:43 88 111
Riche Riche 06:32 04:22 66 83
jimwetzler 06:34 05:43 87 110
GMcD 06:34 07:06 108 136
ilan 06:35 07:52 119 150
Onelug 06:37 05:48 87 110
Kevin Gregg Kevin Gregg 06:38 06:14 93 117
jon 06:39 05:50 87 110
tom.healey 06:42 05:46 86 108
Vannyx 06:45 04:58 73 92
James P 06:45 05:44 84 106
paul.whitehouse69 06:45 05:13 77 97
uvofiz 06:46 04:52 71 89
SlumdogEngineer 06:46 07:20 108 136
Puzzleplease 06:51 04:47 69 87
FraserH 06:54 06:19 91 115
DianeRS 06:55 06:24 92 116
Nangle 06:57 06:31 93 117
tds 07:10 05:09 71 89
nigel 07:13 04:54 67 84
KenD51 07:14 05:23 74 93
ChrisBrea 07:19 06:41 91 115
banishspam 07:19 07:44 105 132
Corymbia Corymbia 07:21 06:03 82 103
Kalakuta72 07:22 04:44 64 81
martinede 07:24 06:36 89 112
andrewfeist96 07:28 05:00 66 83
janesa 07:32 05:09 68 86
DamienKnapma 07:36 05:51 76 96
Desdeeloeste Desdeeloeste 07:41 06:25 83 105
Mike Harper Mike Harper 07:45 05:59 77 97
earlylight 07:50 04:46 60 75
wwicksteed 07:51 04:48 61 77
John Arnold 07:58 05:26 68 86
plett11 Plett11 08:00 05:44 71 89
endafk 08:08 05:45 70 88
nigelmzzz 08:08 09:15 113 143
ulaca ulaca 08:09 08:03 98 124
Templar Redux Templar 08:10 08:34 104 131
TomHerbert 08:11 07:57 97 122
Sheen 08:12 05:33 67 84
Zabadak3 Zabadak 08:13 08:23 102 129
richardCV22 08:20 07:35 91 115
jaraab 08:21 07:41 92 116
Laputan 08:27 06:05 71 89
mattindoha 08:28 11:29 135 170
Deezzaa Deezzaa 08:30 06:39 78 98
kath 08:36 07:26 86 108
raincloud 08:36 07:21 85 107
vefatica vefatica 08:40 06:24 73 92
Doyler 08:42 07:55 90 113
goblin 08:43 08:26 96 121
luxtonj61 08:43 05:34 63 79
hipponym 08:44 05:37 64 81
GMB 08:46 11:50 134 169
robert.buchele 08:46 05:37 64 81
vinyl12345 vinyl1 08:46 08:08 92 116
Jeeves 08:46 07:51 89 112
OldSolver 08:53 05:40 63 79
JeffHobbs 08:55 08:43 97 122
Mkgnao Mkgnao 08:57 08:14 91 115
uffindellbirtjn 09:01 08:10 90 113
barracuda barracuda 09:18 08:05 86 108
hemantyd 09:31 08:33 89 112
Pendrov 09:52 09:54 100 126
Calculator001 09:57 08:16 83 105
jarenstein 10:02 07:39 76 96
Birdingbob 10:06 13:23 132 167
TonyN6 10:10 09:12 90 113
ofarrell 10:14 08:43 85 107
iholloway 10:16 07:47 75 94
Word Psmith 10:38 08:04 75 94
russellcannon 10:47 08:52 82 103
Nuck_the_king 10:47 11:55 110 139
albrecht1959 10:50 11:14 103 130
horners1974 Jonathan Hornby 10:53 09:12 84 106
simjt simjt 11:29 07:57 69 87
WordPlodder BletchleyReject 11:59 15:11 126 159
tyrotim tyrotim 12:29 10:34 84 106
alistair.boere 12:31 08:59 71 89
mpbthorpe 12:46 12:33 98 124
chabuduo chabuduo 13:01 08:13 63 79
martinr486 13:01 07:12 55 69
intentional rounding 13:02 06:52 52 65
flashman flashman 13:18 15:12 114 144
kapietro kapietro 13:34 11:01 81 102
Corbo 13:48 10:26 75 94
Doofenschmirtz Doofenschmirtz 14:30 12:42 87 110
Dofray 14:35 16:54 115 145
Mendes Mendesest 15:14 12:37 82 103
Xebeq 15:33 15:44 101 127
The Real Steve Snackman 16:10 07:35 46 58
140 Mandak 262 Jamuna 16:48 14:48 88 111
tomtom2 17:47 14:48 83 105
TonyK 18:55 14:44 77 97
dan_tman 19:57 16:43 83 105
New Driver 20:19 10:58 53 67
Hazelnut 21:18 17:14 80 101
philby 22:36 15:53 70 88
danielbluebisson 22:42 12:33 55 69
dominic.c-b 22:45 14:46 64 81
paulmcl 23:17 16:07 69 87
pamelalewis51 25:35 19:00 74 93
shankar 27:39 18:33 67 84
lilias.allan 39:53 28:33 71 89
mcfarl 42:48 45:07 105 132
deebeeem 49:07 09:09 18 22

A guide to the solver status

Legend
 Reference solver used for SNITCH
 Other Reference solver
 Tracked solver
 Blog solver

Blog Solvers

Blog Solvers are those who have allowed their times to be taken from the Times for the Times blog.

Notes for Blog Solvers:

  • the most reliable format for reporting times is with format "mm:ss" or as "x minutes" in the title or at the start of the entry
  • only the first main comment for each blogger is used; responses to other comments or a second comment is ignored
  • to report errors, include "n errors" just after the time
  • If you just have a time it is assumed you have no errors unless you mention DNF or pink squares or giving up, etc, in the text
  • Examples of good time notifications are "38:30, 0 errors" and "39 minutes, 0 errors" in the comment title or as the first part of your comment

Notes

The definition of Reference and Tracked solvers is described on the Neutrinos page.

The results for Reference solvers are normally used to calcuate the SNITCH. When this happens they are shown in the list with a solid blue line to the left. In the previous SNITCH results listing for each crossword, these were the only entries shown.

The most common causes for Reference solver results not to be used are: (a) that they did not meet the criteria this month to be used as a reference (e.g. they may not have completed enough puzzles on each day of the week) or (b) they have been pushed out of the top 100 on the leader board. In these cases, the results are now shown, but their data is not used for the SNITCH calculation.

Where there is data for Tracked solvers, I show them also in this table. The solving data is not always available, as the Crossword Club site only shows the top 100 solvers to everyone. Logged-in users get their own leaderboard position and those around them, but this is not available to everyone. So the SNITCH site only gets data for those who have made the top 100 in the leaderboard at some point during the day.

As a result there are a few geographically advantaged solvers; those of us who solve early in the day (e.g. we in the Antipodes, those in Asia and those staying up late in North America) are more likely to hit the leaderboard even with slower times. Solvers who are just as capable but solve later in the UK day might not make the top 100 and I have no way to capture their results.

You may wonder why there are Tracked solvers (in red) with low average solving times, mixed in with the Reference solvers (in blue). These are usually those that, while they don't seem to be Neutrinos, are not well aligned to the SNITCH. So I don't use them as Reference solvers in the SNITCH calculation, but still show their overall results.

You might also notice that there's some inconsistency at the tail end of the Reference solver list. My cutoff point is an average solving time of 45 minutes. But if someone around this mark is chosen as a Reference solver, their next month's results might end up being over 45 minutes and they will still be used. Alternatively, a Tracked solver might creep in under 45 minutes on the next calculation, but didn't make the cut for the prior Reference list. It's on the to-do list to see if I can make this a bit more predictable.

Stored SNITCH Values

Here are the SNITCH values (stored on the day) from the crossword.

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