Quick SNITCH

A quantitative guide to the degree of difficulty of the Times Quick Cryptic Crossword

Times Quick Cryptic Crossword 2808

Date 16 October 2024
Number 2808
Setter Joker
Day of week Wednesday
NITCH 83
Count of ref solvers 76
Ref solvers excluded with errors 9
Link to crossword View Crossword*
Times for the Times Link 2808

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Detailed solving results

Reference, Tracked and Blog solvers with error-free solutions to this puzzle are shown below.

We also show the solver's Personal NITCH, which is their result on this puzzle compared to their average time, and the Wavelength Index of Times Cryptic Hardness, the WITCH, which is the Personal NITCH compared to the SNITCH.

Name TfTT Name Average time This time Personal NITCH WITCH
mohn 02:01 01:47 88 106
cmjhutton 02:29 02:27 98 118
Jason 02:29 02:17 91 109
verlaine 02:36 01:55 73 87
robertscottf 02:37 02:59 114 137
mistigris 02:38 03:15 123 148
aphis99 aphis99 02:44 02:37 95 114
Flimmy flammy 03:19 02:22 71 85
richard 03:28 03:11 91 109
markdobell 03:38 03:03 83 100
Topical Tim Topical Tim 03:54 03:37 92 110
SimonAnthony 04:04 03:18 81 97
chindit 04:07 03:48 92 110
Golvellius 04:11 03:06 74 89
glheard 04:11 03:07 74 89
MikeOsborne 04:12 04:09 98 118
lickert 04:18 03:25 79 95
Tom Stubbs Tom Stubbs 04:23 03:34 81 97
tilbee 04:25 05:56 134 161
philjordan1147 BUSMAN 04:30 03:44 82 98
MK76 04:39 03:38 78 93
andrewlake 04:43 03:29 73 87
LouWeed LouWeed 04:45 04:40 98 118
March 04:46 03:40 76 91
neilr neilr 04:54 04:18 87 104
LuckOfLucien 04:58 04:27 89 107
chriswords 05:03 04:12 83 100
Johninterred 05:05 04:08 81 97
Squallaby 05:14 04:00 76 91
fshephe 05:15 04:51 92 110
7dPenguin 7dPenguin 05:16 03:37 68 81
McBeakLives 05:16 04:02 76 91
cdb_100 05:16 03:43 70 84
AndyKnott321 05:23 04:43 87 104
KarenR 05:27 05:21 98 118
MrChumley MrChumley 05:28 06:19 115 138
Encota 05:41 06:11 108 130
denislaw 05:42 05:08 90 108
Finzi 05:44 05:18 92 110
rrricharrrd 05:53 04:02 68 81
Shabbo 05:57 06:22 107 128
mcrossib1 05:57 04:43 79 95
mw7000 05:59 04:26 74 89
Freemers 06:00 04:38 77 92
DunPangolin 06:05 05:00 82 98
Curarist 06:11 05:27 88 106
Paul Hammond Paul Hammond 06:14 04:29 71 85
Adrian Cobb 06:16 05:26 86 103
Tudds 06:17 05:08 81 97
robinh 06:20 06:07 96 115
hopkinb hopkinb 06:22 05:41 89 107
Riche Riche 06:32 04:22 66 79
GMcD 06:34 07:06 108 130
ilan 06:35 07:52 119 143
Onelug 06:37 05:48 87 104
Kevin Gregg Kevin Gregg 06:38 06:14 93 112
Vannyx 06:45 04:58 73 87
James P 06:45 05:44 84 101
paul.whitehouse69 06:45 05:13 77 92
uvofiz 06:46 04:52 71 85
SlumdogEngineer 06:46 07:20 108 130
Puzzleplease 06:51 04:47 69 83
FraserH 06:54 06:19 91 109
Nangle 06:57 06:31 93 112
tds 07:10 05:09 71 85
KenD51 07:14 05:23 74 89
ChrisBrea 07:19 06:41 91 109
banishspam 07:19 07:44 105 126
Corymbia Corymbia 07:21 06:03 82 98
martinede 07:24 06:36 89 107
janesa 07:32 05:09 68 81
DamienKnapma 07:36 05:51 76 91
Desdeeloeste Desdeeloeste 07:41 06:25 83 100
Mike Harper Mike Harper 07:45 05:59 77 92
wwicksteed 07:51 04:48 61 73
John Arnold 07:58 05:26 68 81
plett11 Plett11 08:00 05:44 71 85
endafk 08:08 05:45 70 84
nigelmzzz 08:08 09:15 113 136
ulaca ulaca 08:09 08:03 98 118
TomHerbert 08:11 07:57 97 116
Zabadak3 Zabadak 08:13 08:23 102 122
richardCV22 08:20 07:35 91 109
mattindoha 08:28 11:29 135 162
Deezzaa Deezzaa 08:30 06:39 78 93
kath 08:36 07:26 86 103
raincloud 08:36 07:21 85 102
vefatica vefatica 08:40 06:24 73 87
Doyler 08:42 07:55 90 108
goblin 08:43 08:26 96 115
GMB 08:46 11:50 134 161
vinyl12345 vinyl1 08:46 08:08 92 110
Jeeves 08:46 07:51 89 107
OldSolver 08:53 05:40 63 75
JeffHobbs 08:55 08:43 97 116
Mkgnao Mkgnao 08:57 08:14 91 109
uffindellbirtjn 09:01 08:10 90 108
barracuda barracuda 09:18 08:05 86 103
hemantyd 09:31 08:33 89 107
Pendrov 09:52 09:54 100 120
Calculator001 09:57 08:16 83 100
jarenstein 10:02 07:39 76 91
Birdingbob 10:06 13:23 132 159
TonyN6 10:10 09:12 90 108
ofarrell 10:14 08:43 85 102
iholloway 10:16 07:47 75 90
Word Psmith 10:38 08:04 75 90
russellcannon 10:47 08:52 82 98
Nuck_the_king 10:47 11:55 110 132
albrecht1959 10:50 11:14 103 124
horners1974 10:53 09:12 84 101
simjt simjt 11:29 07:57 69 83
WordPlodder BletchleyReject 11:59 15:11 126 151
tyrotim tyrotim 12:29 10:34 84 101
alistair.boere 12:31 08:59 71 85
mpbthorpe 12:46 12:33 98 118
martinr486 13:01 07:12 55 66
intentional rounding 13:02 06:52 52 62
flashman flashman 13:18 15:12 114 137
kapietro kapietro 13:34 11:01 81 97
Corbo 13:48 10:26 75 90
Doofenschmirtz Doofenschmirtz 14:30 12:42 87 104
Dofray 14:35 16:54 115 138
Mendes 15:14 12:37 82 98
Xebeq 15:33 15:44 101 121
The Real Steve Snackman 16:10 07:35 46 55
140 Mandak 262 Jamuna 16:48 14:48 88 106
tomtom2 17:47 14:48 83 100
TonyK 18:55 14:44 77 92
dan_tman 19:57 16:43 83 100
New Driver 20:19 10:58 53 63
Hazelnut 21:18 17:14 80 96
philby 22:36 15:53 70 84
danielbluebisson 22:42 12:33 55 66
dominic.c-b 22:45 14:46 64 77
paulmcl 23:17 16:07 69 83
pamelalewis51 25:35 19:00 74 89
shankar 27:39 18:33 67 80
lilias.allan 39:53 28:33 71 85
mcfarl 42:48 45:07 105 126
deebeeem 49:07 09:09 18 21

A guide to the solver status

Legend
 Reference solver used for SNITCH
 Other Reference solver
 Tracked solver
 Blog solver

Blog Solvers

Blog Solvers are those who have allowed their times to be taken from the Times for the Times blog.

Notes for Blog Solvers:

  • the most reliable format for reporting times is with format "mm:ss" or as "x minutes" in the title or at the start of the entry
  • only the first main comment for each blogger is used; responses to other comments or a second comment is ignored
  • to report errors, include "n errors" just after the time
  • If you just have a time it is assumed you have no errors unless you mention DNF or pink squares or giving up, etc, in the text
  • Examples of good time notifications are "38:30, 0 errors" and "39 minutes, 0 errors" in the comment title or as the first part of your comment

Notes

The definition of Reference and Tracked solvers is described on the Neutrinos page.

The results for Reference solvers are normally used to calcuate the SNITCH. When this happens they are shown in the list with a solid blue line to the left. In the previous SNITCH results listing for each crossword, these were the only entries shown.

The most common causes for Reference solver results not to be used are: (a) that they did not meet the criteria this month to be used as a reference (e.g. they may not have completed enough puzzles on each day of the week) or (b) they have been pushed out of the top 100 on the leader board. In these cases, the results are now shown, but their data is not used for the SNITCH calculation.

Where there is data for Tracked solvers, I show them also in this table. The solving data is not always available, as the Crossword Club site only shows the top 100 solvers to everyone. Logged-in users get their own leaderboard position and those around them, but this is not available to everyone. So the SNITCH site only gets data for those who have made the top 100 in the leaderboard at some point during the day.

As a result there are a few geographically advantaged solvers; those of us who solve early in the day (e.g. we in the Antipodes, those in Asia and those staying up late in North America) are more likely to hit the leaderboard even with slower times. Solvers who are just as capable but solve later in the UK day might not make the top 100 and I have no way to capture their results.

You may wonder why there are Tracked solvers (in red) with low average solving times, mixed in with the Reference solvers (in blue). These are usually those that, while they don't seem to be Neutrinos, are not well aligned to the SNITCH. So I don't use them as Reference solvers in the SNITCH calculation, but still show their overall results.

You might also notice that there's some inconsistency at the tail end of the Reference solver list. My cutoff point is an average solving time of 45 minutes. But if someone around this mark is chosen as a Reference solver, their next month's results might end up being over 45 minutes and they will still be used. Alternatively, a Tracked solver might creep in under 45 minutes on the next calculation, but didn't make the cut for the prior Reference list. It's on the to-do list to see if I can make this a bit more predictable.

Stored SNITCH Values

Here are the SNITCH values (stored on the day) from the crossword.

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